‘Is That Right?’: Sen. Graham Grills Judge Over Support to House Biological Male in Women’s Prison

Graham Judge Netburn is ░░░░░░░░ right NETBURN Yes sir ░░░░░░░░ Tell us about a ░░░░░░░░ you had I think ░░░░░░░░ getting my facts right ░░░░░░░░ transfer of a person ░░░░░░░░ female who male who ░░░░░░░░ a biological male does ░░░░░░░░ ring a bell NETBURN ░░░░░░░░ I know which case ░░░░░░░░ re referring to It ░░░░░░░░ a habeas petition Graham ░░░░░░░░ And it was somebody ░░░░░░░░ had been convicted in ░░░░░░░░ for raping a child ░░░░░░░░ male child and raping ░░░░░░░░ 17 year old female ░░░░░░░░ served their sentence they ░░░░░░░░ out They were convicted ░░░░░░░░ distributing child pornography The ░░░░░░░░ male transitioned into being ░░░░░░░░ female and the Bureau ░░░░░░░░ Prisons objected to the ░░░░░░░░ going into the female ░░░░░░░░ Do you remember all ░░░░░░░░ NETBURN I do senator ░░░░░░░░ OK And you basically ░░░░░░░░ in favor of the ░░░░░░░░ saying that the Bureau ░░░░░░░░ Prisons concerns about the ░░░░░░░░ and the threat to ░░░░░░░░ female inmates was theoretical ░░░░░░░░ that right NETBURN Thank ░░░░░░░░ Senator In that habeas ░░░░░░░░ I issued a report ░░░░░░░░ recommendation which was based ░░░░░░░░ the facts that were ░░░░░░░░ to me those facts ░░░░░░░░ statements from the three ░░░░░░░░ who supervised this petitioner ░░░░░░░░ three of whom recommended ░░░░░░░░ the petitioner be transferred ░░░░░░░░ a women s facility ░░░░░░░░ of her serious medical ░░░░░░░░ And the Bureau of ░░░░░░░░ Graham Well the Bureau ░░░░░░░░ Prisons opposed this transfer ░░░░░░░░ NETBURN Well the wardens ░░░░░░░░ were directly Graham No ░░░░░░░░ no The Bureau of ░░░░░░░░ opposed this transfer right ░░░░░░░░ Correct which is why ░░░░░░░░ petitioner brought a habeas ░░░░░░░░ Graham Right So now ░░░░░░░░ m in overtime but ░░░░░░░░ ll wrap it up ░░░░░░░░ bottom line here is ░░░░░░░░ the concern of the ░░░░░░░░ of Prisons is that ░░░░░░░░ biological male transitioning to ░░░░░░░░ female with the history ░░░░░░░░ sexual violence would be ░░░░░░░░ and threatening to the ░░░░░░░░ population You thought that ░░░░░░░░ be a theoretical concern ░░░░░░░░ the person in question ░░░░░░░░ attacked male and female ░░░░░░░░ Is that right NETBURN ░░░░░░░░ s not correct sir ░░░░░░░░ Graham That s what ░░░░░░░░ said NETBURN I based ░░░░░░░░ report and recommendation on ░░░░░░░░ record evidence before me ░░░░░░░░ So you think the ░░░░░░░░ of the Bureau of ░░░░░░░░ that someone with a ░░░░░░░░ past regarding sexual assaults ░░░░░░░░ not be threatening and ░░░░░░░░ Biological male transitioning to ░░░░░░░░ you just don t ░░░░░░░░ that s a legitimate ░░░░░░░░ NETBURN Let let me ░░░░░░░░ very clear sir The ░░░░░░░░ for which the petitioner ░░░░░░░░ convicted of 30 years ░░░░░░░░ are abhorrent And the ░░░░░░░░ was convicted by an ░░░░░░░░ State Court and since ░░░░░░░░ Graham He was convicted ░░░░░░░░ she was convicted of ░░░░░░░░ a child raping a ░░░░░░░░ year old woman got ░░░░░░░░ of prison and was ░░░░░░░░ of child pornography afterwards ░░░░░░░░ from a male to ░░░░░░░░ and the Bureau of ░░░░░░░░ said we do not ░░░░░░░░ this person should be ░░░░░░░░ a female prison And ░░░░░░░░ thought those concerns were ░░░░░░░░ is that fair NETBURN ░░░░░░░░ base my decision on ░░░░░░░░ record before me DURBIN ░░░░░░░░ you want to finish ░░░░░░░░ statement NETBURN Thank you ░░░░░░░░ Durbin I base my ░░░░░░░░ on the record before ░░░░░░░░ and the record was ░░░░░░░░ the three wardens who ░░░░░░░░ supervised the petitioner all ░░░░░░░░ transfer The petitioner had ░░░░░░░░ disciplinary issues at all ░░░░░░░░ her time in federal ░░░░░░░░ she had never engaged ░░░░░░░░ any violence and in ░░░░░░░░ had been the victim ░░░░░░░░ sexual violence while in ░░░░░░░░ male facility And the ░░░░░░░░ of Prisons long time ░░░░░░░░ medical provider also testified ░░░░░░░░ a two day hearing ░░░░░░░░ me who recommended that ░░░░░░░░ petitioner be transferred because ░░░░░░░░ her serious medical needs ░░░░░░░░ recommended that the district ░░░░░░░░ adopt my recommendation based ░░░░░░░░ Estelle v Gamble and ░░░░░░░░ v Safley The district ░░░░░░░░ adopted my report and ░░░░░░░░ and the government did ░░░░░░░░ move for a stay ░░░░░░░░ Thank you.”