Julia Ainsley: It’s a ‘Very Scary Time’ for People at DHS Right Now

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AINSLEY: "It's a really scary time, even for former people who stay in touch with their colleagues. They’re told, 'Look, I can't even have you on my phone records right now.' There’s such an insular place right now for people who want to keep their jobs and want to keep doing the jobs that they’ve been doing, and many times for, you know, more than 10 years, even more than — DHS has only been around since 2003, but a lot of people who really feel that they’ve devoted their careers to this and want to keep doing that. It’s really similar to what we saw over the weekend, too, when immigration judges were fired. It doesn't seem to make sense. When you want a big-scale deportation force in this country and you want more people out, why would you get rid of the judges? Why would you get rid of people at ice and CBP? But the idea here is they want short-term pain in order to have a long-term gain of putting people in these positions that they think will make the decisions they want."