NBC’s Richard Engel: I Wouldn’t Say Corruption in Ukraine Is ‘Serious’; ‘There Have Been a Few Serious Incidents’

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ENGEL: “So, the — to answer your question earlier, how much of this was tough love, I don’t get the impression — I wasn’t in the private meeting between Zelenskyy and the Secretary, but I don’t get the impression that this was — Secretary Blinken coming here with a message saying, hey guys, it’s not going so well, you need to consider negotiations, you may have to give up territory. I don’t think that was what this was. Nor do I think they were holding them over the coals about corruption. The corruption is — has been, I wouldn’t say serious. It had — there have been a few serious incidents, and it is something that has annoyed the Ukrainians primarily, because the corruption scandals that have been here have been about overcharging within the military. They found that uniforms or food, eggs was one of the scandals, that were being supplied to the soldiers were above market cost.”