Fiorina Eviscerates Scarborough Argument for Banning People on Watch List from Buying Arms

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BRZEZINSKI: "And we've had a couple of Republicans on this morning who don't seem to think that there's much that we can do. Are you along those lines?"

FIORINA: "Well, I think one of the things we should be doing and we're clearly not doing is prosecuting those people who shouldn't have guns. We have lists and lists of people who shouldn't own guns who have them and they're not prosecuted. Less than 1% of them are ever prosecuted. We have loads of guns that are illegally owned in this country. Why don't we prosecute them? I think people would be willing to do more if some basic common sense steps were taken. We don't enforce the laws in this country. There's why -- that's why some of the cities and states with the most stringent gun control laws in the country and yet a mass shooting occurred. So I actually think it's ideology, not common sense that causes the left wing every time in a knee-jerk reaction here to say the answer is more laws. I think it makes more sense to enforce the laws we have."

BRZEZINSKI: "There are common sense things we can do, can't we?"

FIORINA: "That's kind of a red herring. Once you're indicted, you cannot own firearm. Let's enforce the laws we have. Let's start with that."

SCARBOROUGH: "If you're on a terror watch list, you can't get on a plane but you can buy a .223?"

FIORINA: "My best friend's husband was on the watch list for years. It was a complete mistake. He also happened to be a gun owner. If I had utter faith in the competence of government, I might agree with that. But do you? I don't. The government screws up all the time. They screw up who they put on watch lists. My goodness, there are litanies of things that the governor makes mistakes over. But if someone is a terror suspect, if they can be --"

SCARBOROUGH: "You're saying because they screw up in 1% or 2% on the terror watch list and I would suspect your friend on the terror watch list if he or she went in to buy a gun at that point would appeal being on the terror watch list."

FIORINA: "Do you know how long it takes to get off the terror watch list as a mistake?"

SCARBOROUGH: "You talk about a red herring. This is a red herring to suggest that we should not have background checks for people on terror watch lists."

FIORINA: " It's red herring if someone is a suspected terrorist, they can be indicted. Why aren't they? If someone illegally owns a gun, they can be a prosecuted. Why aren't they?"

SCARBOROUGH: "Right."

FIORINA: "Let us start with those common sense things because it's not happening today. Here we're talking about a mass shooting, a tragedy, that has all the ear marks of a new phase of Islamic terrorism here at home and what are we talking about driven by president Obama --"

SCARBOROUGH: "I'm a Republican that had I think 100% rating with the NRA --"

FIORINA: "Well, no more I guess, Joe."

SCARBOROUGH: "Well, probably not if we want to make sure that terrorists can go into gun shows and get as many guns as they want to get and get as military style assault weapons. Perhaps if the NRA doesn't rate me 100%, perhaps that more of a problem with how the NRA's values have changed."

FIORINA: "Maybe. Maybe we just disagree on this. If you listen to your reporter, he said the ATF believes someone purchased this gun on behalf of the police department and somehow it ended up in the hands of this guy."

SCARBOROUGH: "Chances are probably pretty good Carly and I agree 99% of the time on the second amendment issues but there are some things Republicans can do."