Richard Herman on Weinstein: The Biggest Issue for the Defense Is ‘Will They Be Able To Get an Impartial Jury in This #MeToo Environment’

RUSH TRANSCRIPT Here to ░░░░░░░░ in on the criminal ░░░░░░░░ Avery Friedman a civil ░░░░░░░░ attorney and criminal defense ░░░░░░░░ Richard Herman Good to ░░░░░░░░ you both gentlemen Nice ░░░░░░░░ see you Fredericka Thank ░░░░░░░░ So Weinstein s attorney ░░░░░░░░ his client is innocent ░░░░░░░░ will this be a ░░░░░░░░ case for prosecutors to ░░░░░░░░ beyond a reasonable doubt ░░░░░░░░ I think it really ░░░░░░░░ Why Listeners have to ░░░░░░░░ the difference between a ░░░░░░░░ action for bad behavior ░░░░░░░░ an environment and a ░░░░░░░░ where they condone someone ░░░░░░░░ like this and abusing ░░░░░░░░ power and a criminal ░░░░░░░░ where on the rape ░░░░░░░░ he s facing five ░░░░░░░░ 25 years and on ░░░░░░░░ the physical act five ░░░░░░░░ 25 years very serious ░░░░░░░░ You have to prove ░░░░░░░░ Harvey Weinstein physically attacked ░░░░░░░░ women And on cross ░░░░░░░░ and Ben Brafman is ░░░░░░░░ very skilled defense attorney ░░░░░░░░ s been one of ░░░░░░░░ best for decades in ░░░░░░░░ York City he s ░░░░░░░░ to attack that He ░░░░░░░░ going to say on ░░░░░░░░ these women knew his ░░░░░░░░ to want to have ░░░░░░░░ with people that they ░░░░░░░░ went to his office ░░░░░░░░ his hotel room or ░░░░░░░░ house and that they ░░░░░░░░ a choice they had ░░░░░░░░ choice They could have ░░░░░░░░ out and nothing would ░░░░░░░░ happened But they stayed ░░░░░░░░ stayed for a quid ░░░░░░░░ quo they stayed to ░░░░░░░░ a benefit to enhance ░░░░░░░░ careers and that s ░░░░░░░░ they met with him ░░░░░░░░ that s why they ░░░░░░░░ sex That s defense ░░░░░░░░ Consent is a complete ░░░░░░░░ That will be the ░░░░░░░░ So Avery let s ░░░░░░░░ at these charges specifically ░░░░░░░░ Weinstein Rape in the ░░░░░░░░ and third degree sexual ░░░░░░░░ and misconduct and committing ░░░░░░░░ criminal sexual act in ░░░░░░░░ first degree We ve ░░░░░░░░ the criminal sex act ░░░░░░░░ stems from an alleged ░░░░░░░░ on aspiring actress Lucia ░░░░░░░░ in 2004 Will the ░░░░░░░░ of time 14 years ░░░░░░░░ in any way aid ░░░░░░░░ s defense Well the ░░░░░░░░ time that passes Fredericka ░░░░░░░░ the more difficult it ░░░░░░░░ It turns on the ░░░░░░░░ of the witnesses Lucia ░░░░░░░░ been completely consistent in ░░░░░░░░ Cyrus Vance Jr the ░░░░░░░░ had been thinking about ░░░░░░░░ but it s bolstered ░░░░░░░░ by Ronan farrow in ░░░░░░░░ amazing article pulitzer level ░░░░░░░░ merging with the criminal ░░░░░░░░ system He identified the ░░░░░░░░ women and what he ░░░░░░░░ When Harvey Weinstein called ░░░░░░░░ back she was wired ░░░░░░░░ the police went back ░░░░░░░░ asked Weinstein well you ░░░░░░░░ me before are you ░░░░░░░░ to do it again ░░░░░░░░ he said look I ░░░░░░░░ really sorry about that ░░░░░░░░ do that all the ░░░░░░░░ but it won t ░░░░░░░░ again essentially an admission ░░░░░░░░ I think at this ░░░░░░░░ Fredericka not only do ░░░░░░░░ have those three women ░░░░░░░░ think you re going ░░░░░░░░ have a lot more ░░░░░░░░ believe it not that ░░░░░░░░ walk is going to ░░░░░░░░ other victims to come ░░░░░░░░ before that grand jury ░░░░░░░░ when Harvey Weinstein returns ░░░░░░░░ in court on July ░░░░░░░░ there may be additional ░░░░░░░░ I think that s ░░░░░░░░ And Richard the alleged ░░░░░░░░ in that 2013 rape ░░░░░░░░ has not been publicly ░░░░░░░░ Weinstein s attorney says ░░░░░░░░ charges against his client ░░░░░░░░ says are constitutionally flawed ░░░░░░░░ does he mean by ░░░░░░░░ What about this would ░░░░░░░░ constitutionally flawed Fred this ░░░░░░░░ was based on a ░░░░░░░░ complaint not a grand ░░░░░░░░ indictment And the sufficiency ░░░░░░░░ the complaint is what ░░░░░░░░ Brafman is going to ░░░░░░░░ right now I don ░░░░░░░░ know why they rushed ░░░░░░░░ and did it like ░░░░░░░░ They still have a ░░░░░░░░ grand jury Avery is ░░░░░░░░ there will be more ░░░░░░░░ brought This grand jury ░░░░░░░░ indict more charges against ░░░░░░░░ Weinstein That s a ░░░░░░░░ grand jury there s ░░░░░░░░ investigation in the U ░░░░░░░░ against him there s ░░░░░░░░ California criminal investigation against ░░░░░░░░ That s right This ░░░░░░░░ be the tip of ░░░░░░░░ iceberg But the biggest ░░░░░░░░ here one of the ░░░░░░░░ issues for the defense ░░░░░░░░ is will they be ░░░░░░░░ to get an impartial ░░░░░░░░ in this Me too ░░░░░░░░ And Ben Brafman made ░░░░░░░░ to that Ben Brafman ░░░░░░░░ about the movement it ░░░░░░░░ be difficult to seat ░░░░░░░░ jury that wasn t ░░░░░░░░ by this movement He ░░░░░░░░ the creator of the ░░░░░░░░ That s right If ░░░░░░░░ jury can sift through ░░░░░░░░ facts and apply the ░░░░░░░░ as instructed I think ░░░░░░░░ defense has a real ░░░░░░░░ here on the issue ░░░░░░░░ consent If they come ░░░░░░░░ preconceived Me too these ░░░░░░░░ are animals he will ░░░░░░░░ convicted as Bill Cosby ░░░░░░░░ in that same environment ░░░░░░░░ s going to be ░░░░░░░░ There will be more ░░░░░░░░ coming against Mr Weinstein ░░░░░░░░ ll see more I ░░░░░░░░ they re getting convictions ░░░░░░░░ on We ll see ░░░░░░░░ indictments coming All right ░░░░░░░░ Avery thanks so much ░░░░░░░░ good to see you ░░░░░░░░ a good weekend.