Gutierrez: John Kelly Has a ‘Lack of Love’ and Lack of Empathy’

[clip starts KELLY The ░░░░░░░░ between 690 690 000 ░░░░░░░░ 1 8 million were ░░░░░░░░ people that some would ░░░░░░░░ were too afraid to ░░░░░░░░ up others would say ░░░░░░░░ too lazy to get ░░░░░░░░ their asses but they ░░░░░░░░ t sign up clip ░░░░░░░░ CAMEROTA That s White ░░░░░░░░ chief of staff John ░░░░░░░░ He s now facing ░░░░░░░░ over those controversial comments ░░░░░░░░ tell CNN that Democratic ░░░░░░░░ confronted Kelly about them ░░░░░░░░ what does all of ░░░░░░░░ do to negotiating and ░░░░░░░░ do Dreamers feel about ░░░░░░░░ Joining us now is ░░░░░░░░ Congressman Luis Gutierrez and ░░░░░░░░ Martinez Rosas She is ░░░░░░░░ DACA recipient and the ░░░░░░░░ director for United We ░░░░░░░░ a group working to ░░░░░░░░ Dreamers Great to see ░░░░░░░░ of you this morning ░░░░░░░░ Thank you Alisyn MARTINEZ ░░░░░░░░ Good morning CAMEROTA Congressman ░░░░░░░░ did you think of ░░░░░░░░ Kelly s comments GUTIERREZ ░░░░░░░░ you know he s ░░░░░░░░ demonstrated a lack of ░░░░░░░░ of the complexity of ░░░░░░░░ legislation and the public ░░░░░░░░ so I ve learned ░░░░░░░░ about him But I ░░░░░░░░ t think it came ░░░░░░░░ a lack of love ░░░░░░░░ of warmth and empathy ░░░░░░░░ You did not think ░░░░░░░░ did GUTIERREZ I didn ░░░░░░░░ I didn t think ░░░░░░░░ because many times what ░░░░░░░░ have seen Alisyn that ░░░░░░░░ can make up for ░░░░░░░░ lack of understanding the ░░░░░░░░ policy if you have ░░░░░░░░ right If you don ░░░░░░░░ have a lack of ░░░░░░░░ if you don t ░░░░░░░░ a lack of empathy ░░░░░░░░ you don t have ░░░░░░░░ lack of sympathy CAMEROTA ░░░░░░░░ does John Kelly have ░░░░░░░░ love and empathy or ░░░░░░░░ GUTIERREZ He doesn t ░░░░░░░░ s my point So ░░░░░░░░ knew the last time ░░░░░░░░ talked to him and ░░░░░░░░ were talking about temporary ░░░░░░░░ status he said oh ░░░░░░░░ we ve just got ░░░░░░░░ figure out who the ░░░░░░░░ ones are and weed ░░░░░░░░ out And I was ░░░░░░░░ you know Mr Kelly ░░░░░░░░ didn t say it ░░░░░░░░ I thought it I ░░░░░░░░ Mr Kelly you ve ░░░░░░░░ sign up every year ░░░░░░░░ then he said you ░░░░░░░░ we ll do criminal ░░░░░░░░ checks I said they ░░░░░░░░ through criminal background checks ░░░░░░░░ year So he didn ░░░░░░░░ have an understanding of ░░░░░░░░ policy I knew that ░░░░░░░░ I didn t think ░░░░░░░░ had lack of love ░░░░░░░░ he demonstrated that because ░░░░░░░░ boss says that they ░░░░░░░░ all criminals basically And ░░░░░░░░ he s saying that ░░░░░░░░ re all lazy And ░░░░░░░░ God it s really ░░░░░░░░ sad situation because he ░░░░░░░░ supposed to be the ░░░░░░░░ in the room He ░░░░░░░░ supposed to be that ░░░░░░░░ mitigating force and he ░░░░░░░░ not.”