Gutierrez: John Kelly Has a ‘Lack of Love’ and Lack of Empathy’

‘He demonstrated that because his boss says they’re all criminals’

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GUTIERREZ: "Well, you know, he's really demonstrated a lack of understanding of the complexity of the legislation and the public policy, so I've learned that about him. But I didn't think it came with a lack of love and of warmth and empathy."

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