Charles Payne on ‘Big, Beautiful Bill’: This Isn’t the Right Hill for lawmakers to Die On’

MACCALLUM Charles Payne host ░░░░░░░░ Making Money on Fox ░░░░░░░░ Charles good to have ░░░░░░░░ here As you look ░░░░░░░░ that situation you know ░░░░░░░░ a lot of places ░░░░░░░░ the country they don ░░░░░░░░ understand you know what ░░░░░░░░ the big deal about ░░░░░░░░ Why can t they ░░░░░░░░ this out It does ░░░░░░░░ places like Illinois New ░░░░░░░░ New Jersey Give everybody ░░░░░░░░ take on this at ░░░░░░░░ PAYNE You know it ░░░░░░░░ a tough one but ░░░░░░░░ one thing I will ░░░░░░░░ as I listen to ░░░░░░░░ Lawler is that this ░░░░░░░░ t this is something ░░░░░░░░ s been done right ░░░░░░░░ mean I live in ░░░░░░░░ Jersey My property tax ░░░░░░░░ m just going to ░░░░░░░░ it out there is ░░░░░░░░ 000 It would be ░░░░░░░░ selfish for me to ░░░░░░░░ hey I d love ░░░░░░░░ be able to write ░░░░░░░░ off because I would ░░░░░░░░ I would I would ░░░░░░░░ would MACCALLUM Yup I ░░░░░░░░ you PAYNE But in ░░░░░░░░ grand scheme of things ░░░░░░░░ get this through we ░░░░░░░░ dealing with that We ░░░░░░░░ and bear it It ░░░░░░░░ part of success I ░░░░░░░░ And these other folks ░░░░░░░░ Representative Lawler was talking ░░░░░░░░ I m not sure ░░░░░░░░ they are You know ░░░░░░░░ states put themselves in ░░░░░░░░ that I don t ░░░░░░░░ the rest of the ░░░░░░░░ think they should be ░░░░░░░░ them out So I ░░░░░░░░ t know that this ░░░░░░░░ the right hill to ░░░░░░░░ on when there s ░░░░░░░░ other major issues here ░░░░░░░░ on a campaign promise ░░░░░░░░ do less spending and ░░░░░░░░ cutting MACCALLUM Yeah we ░░░░░░░░ that President Trump basically ░░░░░░░░ to this group don ░░░░░░░░ I m going to ░░░░░░░░ mess with Medicaid He ░░░░░░░░ a stronger word than ░░░░░░░░ And you know you ░░░░░░░░ to be negotiable on ░░░░░░░░ SALT tax So we ░░░░░░░░ see where this goes ░░░░░░░░ is Ted Lieu the ░░░░░░░░ speaking about this bill ░░░░░░░░ big bill the big ░░░░░░░░ bill and what he ░░░░░░░░ about it I want ░░░░░░░░ give you a chance ░░░░░░░░ respond to his comments ░░░░░░░░ we go Clip starts ░░░░░░░░ has the largest cut ░░░░░░░░ healthcare in U S ░░░░░░░░ about a trillion dollars ░░░░░░░░ then also it s ░░░░░░░░ to kick off approximately ░░░░░░░░ million people off of ░░░░░░░░ And why they do ░░░░░░░░ To impose the largest ░░░░░░░░ cut for billionaires in ░░░░░░░░ S history Clip ends ░░░░░░░░ Alright so he says ░░░░░░░░ s going to cut ░░░░░░░░ A trillion dollars and ░░░░░░░░ heard the rest PAYNE ░░░░░░░░ MACCALLUM What s your ░░░░░░░░ on the Democrat response ░░░░░░░░ this bill so far ░░░░░░░░ Let me start with ░░░░░░░░ tax cut part because ░░░░░░░░ is part of political ░░░░░░░░ If there were if ░░░░░░░░ did nothing and these ░░░░░░░░ went back to where ░░░░░░░░ were the bottom quintile ░░░░░░░░ lowest household incomes in ░░░░░░░░ country would see their ░░░░░░░░ go up 17 8 ░░░░░░░░ The top 1 percent ░░░░░░░░ see a tax increase ░░░░░░░░ just 6 percent So ░░░░░░░░ goes to who benefited ░░░░░░░░ from these tax cuts ░░░░░░░░ the first place So ░░░░░░░░ is a that is ░░░░░░░░ myth that he s ░░░░░░░░ out there it would ░░░░░░░░ the lowest income earning ░░░░░░░░ in this country that ░░░░░░░░ be absolutely wiped out ░░░░░░░░ they don t do ░░░░░░░░ about this As far ░░░░░░░░ the Medicare K Part ░░░░░░░░ s a tough one ░░░░░░░░ say they want to ░░░░░░░░ out 900 billion in ░░░░░░░░ waste fraud and abuse ░░░░░░░░ do know for instance ░░░░░░░░ had Representative Norman on ░░░░░░░░ And people who can ░░░░░░░░ and are getting these ░░░░░░░░ they should work right ░░░░░░░░ mean that s you ░░░░░░░░ there s we do ░░░░░░░░ that there s waste ░░░░░░░░ and abuse marbled in ░░░░░░░░ taking benefits from anyone ░░░░░░░░ taking the money out ░░░░░░░░ the system that s ░░░░░░░░ the wrong way That ░░░░░░░░ either stolen wasted or ░░░░░░░░ whatever it is is ░░░░░░░░ used properly Why not ░░░░░░░░ that as a fiduciary ░░░░░░░░ of Congress MACCALLUM Yeah ░░░░░░░░ percent I mean these ░░░░░░░░ are designed Medicaid was ░░░░░░░░ for low income families ░░░░░░░░ children pregnant women the ░░░░░░░░ people with disabilities and ░░░░░░░░ in need of long ░░░░░░░░ care It was not ░░░░░░░░ for able bodied people ░░░░░░░░ can work and aren ░░░░░░░░ working We know that ░░░░░░░░ program expanded greatly over ░░░░░░░░ People got used to ░░░░░░░░ lot of these benefits ░░░░░░░░ they don t want ░░░░░░░░ give them up now ░░░░░░░░ they have had them ░░░░░░░░ it s going to ░░░░░░░░ a battle But it ░░░░░░░░ something you know it ░░░░░░░░ part of the how ░░░░░░░░ we get DOGE to ░░░░░░░░ in all of these ░░░░░░░░ so that people who ░░░░░░░░ these benefits can get ░░░░░░░░ And then it ll ░░░░░░░░ for them for a ░░░░░░░░ long time So PAYNE ░░░░░░░░ MACCALLUM Thank you very ░░░░░░░░ Charles PAYNE You got ░░░░░░░░ MACCALLUM Always great to ░░░░░░░░ you.”

PAYNE: “You too.”