Jeffrey Goldberg: Trump Really Believes that Tariffs Will Be Our Salvation

LEMIRE repeatedly in the ░░░░░░░░ meeting yesterday It s ░░░░░░░░ active first 100 days ░░░░░░░░ this for this president ░░░░░░░░ it seems like the ░░░░░░░░ storyline in many ways ░░░░░░░░ the tariffs and the ░░░░░░░░ That s what they ░░░░░░░░ most nervous about in ░░░░░░░░ White House We re ░░░░░░░░ tell us what in ░░░░░░░░ interview with him talk ░░░░░░░░ us about how he ░░░░░░░░ or rationalized or explained ░░░░░░░░ tariffs Goldberg Yeah So ░░░░░░░░ it s it s ░░░░░░░░ to and I hadn ░░░░░░░░ seen him in a ░░░░░░░░ time it s very ░░░░░░░░ to have direct exposure ░░░░░░░░ him to in order ░░░░░░░░ understand what truly moves ░░░░░░░░ and what you know ░░░░░░░░ what truly BRZEZINSKI We ░░░░░░░░ with that Goldberg grips ░░░░░░░░ And there s nothing ░░░░░░░░ for the immigration issues ░░░░░░░░ get them out whoever ░░░░░░░░ is There s nothing ░░░░░░░░ he more sincerely holds ░░░░░░░░ to than the idea ░░░░░░░░ that tariffs are the ░░░░░░░░ to the central dilemma ░░░░░░░░ his life and what ░░░░░░░░ thinks of is the ░░░░░░░░ dilemma of American life ░░░░░░░░ we re being ripped ░░░░░░░░ right And so you ░░░░░░░░ I ve talked to ░░░░░░░░ ve all talked to ░░░░░░░░ to explain that it ░░░░░░░░ not a ripoff when ░░░░░░░░ buy a shirt that ░░░░░░░░ made in Vietnam and ░░░░░░░░ give Vietnam money They ░░░░░░░░ money you get a ░░░░░░░░ You don t feel ░░░░░░░░ off But in in ░░░░░░░░ Trump s universe if ░░░░░░░░ s a if there ░░░░░░░░ an imbalance It means ░░░░░░░░ somehow we re being ░░░░░░░░ off He is committed ░░░░░░░░ this He he did ░░░░░░░░ say he was asked ░░░░░░░░ by Michael Shearer Is ░░░░░░░░ a point at which ░░░░░░░░ stock market and the ░░░░░░░░ market tell you enough ░░░░░░░░ Mm hmm Goldberg and ░░░░░░░░ you pull back And ░░░░░░░░ said there s no ░░░░░░░░ put there s no ░░░░░░░░ know there s no ░░░░░░░░ line past which I ░░░░░░░░ I I m not ░░░░░░░░ to go That could ░░░░░░░░ just you know negotiating ░░░░░░░░ But he really believes ░░░░░░░░ tariffs will be our ░░░░░░░░ and he s committed ░░░░░░░░ we ve heard him ░░░░░░░░ says well maybe this ░░░░░░░░ will be bad maybe ░░░░░░░░ quarter will be bad ░░░░░░░░ s amazing that you ░░░░░░░░ really don t hear ░░░░░░░░ that committed to causing ░░░░░░░░ causing a recession in ░░░░░░░░ to achieve an ideological ░░░░░░░░ It s sort of ░░░░░░░░ in the sense that ░░░░░░░░ man who we think ░░░░░░░░ t really believe in ░░░░░░░░ really does believe in ░░░░░░░░ as a panacea impressive ░░░░░░░░ kind of almost a ░░░░░░░░ way BRZEZINSKI Yeah Goldberg ░░░░░░░░ you look at your ░░░░░░░░ k or or or ░░░░░░░░ stock market But but ░░░░░░░░ really is gripped by ░░░░░░░░ idea that this is ░░░░░░░░ salvation of the United ░░░░░░░░ and he doesn t ░░░░░░░░ care what experts say.”