Richard Haass on Holocaust: It’s Got To Be a Collective Effort to Make Sure That None of This Is Forgotten

BRZEZINSKI Joe you and ░░░░░░░░ have both been there ░░░░░░░░ we ve both seen ░░░░░░░░ Jesse was just talking ░░░░░░░░ And it really when ░░░░░░░░ re there you understand ░░░░░░░░ importance of seeing that ░░░░░░░░ it and remembering it ░░░░░░░░ his reporting on the ░░░░░░░░ gap on this is ░░░░░░░░ I m struck by ░░░░░░░░ Well I m struck ░░░░░░░░ so much today You ░░░░░░░░ I ve always said ░░░░░░░░ standing over the cliffs ░░░░░░░░ Normandy late in the ░░░░░░░░ while it s still ░░░░░░░░ and the sun s ░░░░░░░░ down on June the ░░░░░░░░ probably the most moving ░░░░░░░░ I ve seen And ░░░░░░░░ said that until I ░░░░░░░░ to Auschwitz moving for ░░░░░░░░ different reasons But talking ░░░░░░░░ Holocaust survivors and talking ░░░░░░░░ people that gave me ░░░░░░░░ tour after we did ░░░░░░░░ report from there You ░░░░░░░░ what in Jesse s ░░░░░░░░ from Auschwitz he talked ░░░░░░░░ all the groups and ░░░░░░░░ said including children Richard ░░░░░░░░ was so horrifying to ░░░░░░░░ was going to Auschwitz ░░░░░░░░ it was really the ░░░░░░░░ time I realized talking ░░░░░░░░ Holocaust survivors and talking ░░░░░░░░ guides around that concentration ░░░░░░░░ that it wasn t ░░░░░░░░ including children the Nazis ░░░░░░░░ targeted children When you ░░░░░░░░ at the shoes so ░░░░░░░░ of them were the ░░░░░░░░ of babies of toddlers ░░░░░░░░ young children And it ░░░░░░░░ deliberate They would deliberately ░░░░░░░░ and gas young children ░░░░░░░░ try to exterminate the ░░░░░░░░ race And it was ░░░░░░░░ was I think I ░░░░░░░░ I d have a ░░░░░░░░ understanding going to Auschwitz ░░░░░░░░ it of how something ░░░░░░░░ this could happen I ░░░░░░░░ say the closer you ░░░░░░░░ to it BRZEZINSKI Mm ░░░░░░░░ Yes SCARBOROUGH the more ░░░░░░░░ the crimes are from ░░░░░░░░ humanity And I spent ░░░░░░░░ through their prisons looking ░░░░░░░░ the Nazi guards looking ░░░░░░░░ wondering in these pictures ░░░░░░░░ how could humanity ever ░░░░░░░░ so depraved HAASS The ░░░░░░░░ of it the deliberateness ░░░░░░░░ it it was monstrous ░░░░░░░░ you re right it ░░░░░░░░ almost hard to fathom ░░░░░░░░ And several of us ░░░░░░░░ been to Auschwitz and ░░░░░░░░ s one of those ░░░░░░░░ that you can never ░░░░░░░░ it I just say ░░░░░░░░ linking it to what ░░░░░░░░ and Mika were saying ░░░░░░░░ fact that we re ░░░░░░░░ entering now the period ░░░░░░░░ history where there ll ░░░░░░░░ no people who will ░░░░░░░░ able to give us ░░░░░░░░ BRZEZINSKI Accounts HAASS accounts ░░░░░░░░ Yeah HAASS of what ░░░░░░░░ So it talks again ░░░░░░░░ s almost cycling back ░░░░░░░░ our earlier conversation about ░░░░░░░░ One of the things ░░░░░░░░ ve learned is you ░░░░░░░░ t assume anything about ░░░░░░░░ that it s learned ░░░░░░░░ s taught And we ░░░░░░░░ to be we have ░░░░░░░░ be intentional about it ░░░░░░░░ it s our own ░░░░░░░░ as a country or ░░░░░░░░ this case about a ░░░░░░░░ human experience in order ░░░░░░░░ make never again not ░░░░░░░░ a slogan but something ░░░░░░░░ Right HAASS that s ░░░░░░░░ And we just can ░░░░░░░░ assume anything is transmitted ░░░░░░░░ much less transmitted accurately ░░░░░░░░ again my big takeaway ░░░░░░░░ this is intentionality It ░░░░░░░░ got to be a ░░░░░░░░ effort to make sure ░░░░░░░░ None of this is ░░░░░░░░ forgotten or in any ░░░░░░░░ characterized in ways that ░░░░░░░░ t true.”