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    Leader-Chivee: Tom Homan Sees All Illegal Immigrants as Criminals (clip)
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    MSNBC

    Name: MSNBC

    URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

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    Morning Joe

    Name: Morning Joe

    URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe/

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    Katty Kay

    Name: Katty Kay

    Employment: BBC

    Position: Anchor

    , Lauren Leader-Chivee

    Name: Lauren Leader-Chivee

    Employment: All In Together

    Position: CEO & Co-Founder

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    12/27/2024 11:52 am
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    KAY Lauren talk about ░░░░░░░░ numbers I mean it ░░░░░░░░ interesting to hear Tom ░░░░░░░░ really resisting the idea ░░░░░░░░ putting any numbers on ░░░░░░░░ but to some extent ░░░░░░░░ do matter Every president ░░░░░░░░ deported some people during ░░░░░░░░ course of their administration ░░░░░░░░ Obama famously deported actually ░░░░░░░░ people than Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ done There have been ░░░░░░░░ floated of up to ░░░░░░░░ million per year for ░░░░░░░░ next four years of ░░░░░░░░ Trump Administration which would ░░░░░░░░ outstrip previous presidents and ░░░░░░░░ get us beyond the ░░░░░░░░ of just deporting people ░░░░░░░░ have committed crimes outside ░░░░░░░░ being here illegally So ░░░░░░░░ do you have you ░░░░░░░░ anything more on actual ░░░░░░░░ and how important are ░░░░░░░░ numbers do you think ░░░░░░░░ CHIVEE Well they are ░░░░░░░░ but I don t ░░░░░░░░ they know And I ░░░░░░░░ he s equivocating for ░░░░░░░░ reason and that is ░░░░░░░░ there are just a ░░░░░░░░ amount of sort of ░░░░░░░░ First of all we ░░░░░░░░ t know the extent ░░░░░░░░ which governors and state ░░░░░░░░ enforcement will or will ░░░░░░░░ participate I think that ░░░░░░░░ going to depend a ░░░░░░░░ on what they re ░░░░░░░░ asked to do I ░░░░░░░░ Democratic governors are in ░░░░░░░░ really complicated position because ░░░░░░░░ the one hand they ░░░░░░░░ don t most of ░░░░░░░░ certainly would not agree ░░░░░░░░ family separations on the ░░░░░░░░ hand they re also ░░░░░░░░ pressure from their own ░░░░░░░░ around safety and crime ░░░░░░░░ I think where there ░░░░░░░░ truly targeted deportations on ░░░░░░░░ who are in fact ░░░░░░░░ but that s not ░░░░░░░░ Tom Homan is saying ░░░░░░░░ think that s what ░░░░░░░░ it so disturbing is ░░░░░░░░ they see anyone who ░░░░░░░░ entered the country as ░░░░░░░░ committed a crime and ░░░░░░░░ think most Americans don ░░░░░░░░ see it that way ░░░░░░░░ have families who have ░░░░░░░░ here for decades who ░░░░░░░░ law abiding tax paying ░░░░░░░░ citizens who have citizen ░░░░░░░░ I think the reality ░░░░░░░░ this and also frankly ░░░░░░░░ it could do to ░░░░░░░░ American economy if you ░░░░░░░░ what this would do ░░░░░░░░ the labor force we ░░░░░░░░ saw huge disruptions in ░░░░░░░░ and in other states ░░░░░░░░ they ve done intensive ░░░░░░░░ on undocumented communities who ░░░░░░░░ largely had jobs that ░░░░░░░░ don t fill So ░░░░░░░░ numbers matter they have ░░░░░░░░ idea I think that ░░░░░░░░ why he s equivocating ░░░░░░░░ is going to be ░░░░░░░░ lot of chaos for ░░░░░░░░ next few months if ░░░░░░░░ re serious about this.”
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