Elliot Williams: Countries Like China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Egypt Who Have Death Penalty Are ‘Not Our Peer Nations’

PHILLIP But that s ░░░░░░░░ that s a fair ░░░░░░░░ Yeah Yeah CARDONA I ░░░░░░░░ that s exactly where ░░░░░░░░ was going But I ░░░░░░░░ end end up at ░░░░░░░░ point where we as ░░░░░░░░ country we should not ░░░░░░░░ inconsistent about this The ░░░░░░░░ I get right And ░░░░░░░░ agree with the mass ░░░░░░░░ and the terrorists I ░░░░░░░░ personally that they should ░░░░░░░░ put to death But ░░░░░░░░ don t think the ░░░░░░░░ States should be in ░░░░░░░░ position to make those ░░░░░░░░ as a country We ░░░░░░░░ the only democracy in ░░░░░░░░ world that has capital ░░░░░░░░ We the government of ░░░░░░░░ United States should be ░░░░░░░░ that And so I ░░░░░░░░ that commuting these sentences ░░░░░░░░ putting them on you ░░░░░░░░ life without parole sometimes ░░░░░░░░ s even worse than ░░░░░░░░ That s what I ░░░░░░░░ I where the country ░░░░░░░░ be GERAGHTY I mean ░░░░░░░░ of these men CARDONA ░░░░░░░░ I m saying is ░░░░░░░░ should be consistent PHILLIP ░░░░░░░░ ought to let the ░░░░░░░░ prosecutor weigh in Jones ░░░░░░░░ people agree that life ░░░░░░░░ parole is the worst ░░░░░░░░ GERAGHTY Well 11 of ░░░░░░░░ guys killed prison guards ░░░░░░░░ when you say PHILLIP ░░░░░░░░ Actually several of them ░░░░░░░░ right who were exonerated ░░░░░░░░ excuse me Commuted GERAGHTY ░░░░░░░░ PHILLIP The sentences were ░░░░░░░░ GERAGTHY It s not ░░░░░░░░ there s no risk ░░░░░░░░ these people ever killing ░░░░░░░░ else again If you ░░░░░░░░ a federal prison guard ░░░░░░░░ you re not such ░░░░░░░░ big fan Jones And ░░░░░░░░ re going to be ░░░░░░░░ re going to be ░░░░░░░░ in prison for the ░░░░░░░░ of their lives WILLIAMS ░░░░░░░░ two final points You ░░░░░░░░ one if None of ░░░░░░░░ here at this table ░░░░░░░░ say for certain that ░░░░░░░░ know that no innocent ░░░░░░░░ has ever gotten the ░░░░░░░░ penalty in America we ░░░░░░░░ not have a death ░░░░░░░░ Jones I agree That ░░░░░░░░ my position WILLIAMS None ░░░░░░░░ us can say with ░░░░░░░░ No one can Number ░░░░░░░░ And the other point ░░░░░░░░ would make is you ░░░░░░░░ sort of picking up ░░░░░░░░ your point a little ░░░░░░░░ Maria the only countries ░░░░░░░░ execute more people worldwide ░░░░░░░░ the United States are ░░░░░░░░ Iran Saudi Arabia Somalia ░░░░░░░░ Egypt This is not ░░░░░░░░ We don t want ░░░░░░░░ be in that company ░░░░░░░░ company that we should ░░░░░░░░ in in the United ░░░░░░░░ I don t want ░░░░░░░░ get into looking down ░░░░░░░░ American noses at the ░░░░░░░░ of the world but ░░░░░░░░ is just simply not ░░░░░░░░ peer nations And if ░░░░░░░░ wish to be taken ░░░░░░░░ on a global stage ░░░░░░░░ the kind of countries ░░░░░░░░ we want to be ░░░░░░░░ with this is just ░░░░░░░░ the way we ought ░░░░░░░░ be operating.”