John Liu at COP29: What’s the Point of Being Billionaire or Trillionaire, How Does that Help Anyone?

SEIRASKABARE Thank you so ░░░░░░░░ My name is Amakori ░░░░░░░░ ph I m from ░░░░░░░░ Uganda is based in ░░░░░░░░ On the video it ░░░░░░░░ very interested to see ░░░░░░░░ there was someone from ░░░░░░░░ I m very happy ░░░░░░░░ hear that you are ░░░░░░░░ in our country I ░░░░░░░░ very few things that ░░░░░░░░ would like to put ░░░░░░░░ One is where I ░░░░░░░░ from we are seeing ░░░░░░░░ is increased population encroaching ░░░░░░░░ the habitats of wild ░░░░░░░░ For example I will ░░░░░░░░ a landscape of Marshall ░░░░░░░░ Park ph where we ░░░░░░░░ increased encroachment on the ░░░░░░░░ and we are seeing ░░░░░░░░ these wild animals are ░░░░░░░░ back into the communities ░░░░░░░░ think two weeks back ░░░░░░░░ was an elephant I ░░░░░░░░ that entered into the ░░░░░░░░ and we had one ░░░░░░░░ who was killed by ░░░░░░░░ elephant And in revenge ░░░░░░░░ also human beings are ░░░░░░░░ is to kill these ░░░░░░░░ animals So as communities ░░░░░░░░ ve been supporting these ░░░░░░░░ with alternative options where ░░░░░░░░ are training them on ░░░░░░░░ especially they put them ░░░░░░░░ with the national parks ░░░░░░░░ that these wild animals ░░░░░░░░ don t come out ░░░░░░░░ also communities are also ░░░░░░░░ out of it For ░░░░░░░░ in terms of beekeeping ░░░░░░░░ they re harvesting the ░░░░░░░░ packaging and harvesting it ░░░░░░░░ they re selling it ░░░░░░░░ to benefit Second we ░░░░░░░░ also an encroachment on ░░░░░░░░ national forest where now ░░░░░░░░ are cutting down the ░░░░░░░░ forest for sugarcane I ░░░░░░░░ those who come from ░░░░░░░░ they have heard about ░░░░░░░░ national forest called Bogoma ░░░░░░░░ which now they re ░░░░░░░░ to for sugarcane plantation ░░░░░░░░ is well known for ░░░░░░░░ Now chimpanzees are in ░░░░░░░░ communities because their home ░░░░░░░░ been encroached on I ░░░░░░░░ t know how we ░░░░░░░░ support such kind of ░░░░░░░░ so at least we ░░░░░░░░ also reduce on the ░░░░░░░░ human wildlife conflict that ░░░░░░░░ happening within our communities ░░░░░░░░ Thank you SEIRASKABARE Thank ░░░░░░░░ LIU OK I I ░░░░░░░░ one of the things ░░░░░░░░ we ve seen is ░░░░░░░░ actually the way we ░░░░░░░░ considering the economy that ░░░░░░░░ s materialistic that that ░░░░░░░░ believe apparently that money ░░░░░░░░ coming and the value ░░░░░░░░ in buying and selling ░░░░░░░░ And so we re ░░░░░░░░ re saying that all ░░░░░░░░ things our phones our ░░░░░░░░ our cars are more ░░░░░░░░ than the forests or ░░░░░░░░ air or the rivers ░░░░░░░░ I think this is ░░░░░░░░ The the the reality ░░░░░░░░ that the true value ░░░░░░░░ in ecological function because ░░░░░░░░ ecological function lasts for ░░░░░░░░ It s it s ░░░░░░░░ s here It doesn ░░░░░░░░ need to be dissipated ░░░░░░░░ s only dissipated when ░░░░░░░░ believe that the things ░░░░░░░░ human beings make are ░░░░░░░░ valuable than the well ░░░░░░░░ s say God made ░░░░░░░░ that evolution created over ░░░░░░░░ And when when you ░░░░░░░░ that in these long ░░░░░░░░ the oceans the rivers ░░░░░░░░ air the soil and ░░░░░░░░ vegetation that is where ░░░░░░░░ true value is And ░░░░░░░░ we think that the ░░░░░░░░ that we make which ░░░░░░░░ this is a few ░░░░░░░░ old and it s ░░░░░░░░ old it s going ░░░░░░░░ be dead it s ░░░░░░░░ piece of junk is ░░░░░░░░ reality And so it ░░░░░░░░ a shiny object that ░░░░░░░░ we look at for ░░░░░░░░ moment but it doesn ░░░░░░░░ last And so we ░░░░░░░░ to value what is ░░░░░░░░ valuable And what s ░░░░░░░░ in these ecosystem restoration ░░░░░░░░ is they create a ░░░░░░░░ economy And that economy ░░░░░░░░ is also one of ░░░░░░░░ and of sharing with ░░░░░░░░ other So if we ░░░░░░░░ share we all have ░░░░░░░░ But if we all ░░░░░░░░ to gather as much ░░░░░░░░ possessions to ourselves as ░░░░░░░░ possibly can then we ░░░░░░░░ we re we re ░░░░░░░░ that these things are ░░░░░░░░ valuable and we deserve ░░░░░░░░ and if I were ░░░░░░░░ very clever person who ░░░░░░░░ to become a billionaire ░░░░░░░░ a trillionaire and I ░░░░░░░░ gathered all this stuff ░░░░░░░░ myself what s the ░░░░░░░░ of that How does ░░░░░░░░ help anyone And I ░░░░░░░░ going to die and ░░░░░░░░ don t think I ░░░░░░░░ anything if I die ░░░░░░░░ more stuff than anybody ░░░░░░░░ So we need to ░░░░░░░░ about this as a ░░░░░░░░ We need to have ░░░░░░░░ intelligence about what s ░░░░░░░░ on And the way ░░░░░░░░ answer these questions is ░░░░░░░░ We don t do ░░░░░░░░ individually and we certainly ░░░░░░░░ t give our power ░░░░░░░░ to corporations or governments ░░░░░░░░ don t actually think ░░░░░░░░ they re doing it ░░░░░░░░ the good of all ░░░░░░░░ re doing it for ░░░░░░░░ interests or their own ░░░░░░░░ And this is something ░░░░░░░░ we need to realize ░░░░░░░░ they re making a ░░░░░░░░ And it doesn t ░░░░░░░░ 29 COPs to decide ░░░░░░░░ you have an existential ░░░░░░░░ to human civilization and ░░░░░░░░ Earth from the changes ░░░░░░░░ the climate It takes ░░░░░░░░ at the situation So ░░░░░░░░ we had reacted 29 ░░░░░░░░ ago or 32 years ░░░░░░░░ when this was first ░░░░░░░░ discussed we could have ░░░░░░░░ many of these things ░░░░░░░░ all the people in ░░░░░░░░ ecosystem restoration communities are ░░░░░░░░ OK we re done ░░░░░░░░ re going to just ░░░░░░░░ the work because it ░░░░░░░░ to be done And ░░░░░░░░ re going to we ░░░░░░░░ going to believe to ░░░░░░░░ that eventually the society ░░░░░░░░ understand how much value ░░░░░░░░ is being created if ░░░░░░░░ have for instance botanical ░░░░░░░░ where we save the ░░░░░░░░ endangered species or we ░░░░░░░░ the hydrological cycle Well ░░░░░░░░ m getting into a ░░░░░░░░ Nick do you have ░░░░░░░░ words We have three ░░░░░░░░