Alex Epstein: Environmentalists’ Policies Are Aimed at Making Human Life Worse and Reducing Population

PETERSON So that s ░░░░░░░░ critical issue right Even ░░░░░░░░ the metrics of the ░░░░░░░░ themselves the policies that ░░░░░░░░ re presently pursuing on ░░░░░░░░ energy front are not ░░░░░░░░ counterproductive environmentally but they ░░░░░░░░ driving poor people into ░░░░░░░░ poverty We re gonna ░░░░░░░░ a lot of that ░░░░░░░░ EPSTEIN I think it ░░░░░░░░ think I think it ░░░░░░░░ So I think if ░░░░░░░░ if you take the ░░░░░░░░ environmentalists as having a ░░░░░░░░ of pro human interest ░░░░░░░░ nature and pro human ░░░░░░░░ in lack of pollution ░░░░░░░░ is true but my ░░░░░░░░ belief is at the ░░░░░░░░ of it is the ░░░░░░░░ that human impact is ░░░░░░░░ bad PETERSON Yeah EPSTEIN ░░░░░░░░ s intrinsically immoral and ░░░░░░░░ also the belief is ░░░░░░░░ s inevitably self destructive ░░░░░░░░ nature is viewed as ░░░░░░░░ God that if we ░░░░░░░░ it through our impact ░░░░░░░░ going to punish us ░░░░░░░░ it really has this ░░░░░░░░ where it s wrong ░░░░░░░░ doing the wrong thing ░░░░░░░░ going to destroy us ░░░░░░░░ if you really think ░░░░░░░░ it that way all ░░░░░░░░ policies make sense because ░░░░░░░░ policies are really aimed ░░░░░░░░ making human life worse ░░░░░░░░ ultimately reducing the human ░░░░░░░░ So it is true ░░░░░░░░ can say Well yeah ░░░░░░░░ t you cutting down ░░░░░░░░ trees Aren t you ░░░░░░░░ this But they would ░░░░░░░░ Well if you use ░░░░░░░░ s say we had ░░░░░░░░ free nuclear energy which ░░░░░░░░ have actually commented on ░░░░░░░░ when they thought fusion ░░░░░░░░ possible I talked about ░░░░░░░░ in The Moral Case ░░░░░░░░ in Fossil Future the ░░░░░░░░ environmentalist said this would ░░░░░░░░ the worst thing ever ░░░░░░░░ totally clean cheap abundant ░░░░░░░░ of energy would be ░░░░░░░░ worst thing ever because ░░░░░░░░ what we would do ░░░░░░░░ it And one of ░░░░░░░░ leaders called it like ░░░░░░░░ an idiot child a ░░░░░░░░ gun And what they ░░░░░░░░ is that energy is ░░░░░░░░ our ability to do ░░░░░░░░ which means our ability ░░░░░░░░ impact the Earth And ░░░░░░░░ we use a lot ░░░░░░░░ energy we impact the ░░░░░░░░ a lot Now we ░░░░░░░░ it in a way ░░░░░░░░ s beneficial to us ░░░░░░░░ we preserve the most ░░░░░░░░ parts of nature and ░░░░░░░░ give ourselves an ability ░░░░░░░░ enjoy nature Nevertheless it ░░░░░░░░ a very humanized Earth ░░░░░░░░ to the anti human ░░░░░░░░ movement that is offensive ░░░░░░░░ that movement is not ░░░░░░░░ a clean environment for ░░░░░░░░ or for us to ░░░░░░░░ able to contemplate polar ░░░░░░░░ or go on safaris ░░░░░░░░ any of this PETERSON ░░░░░░░░ EPSTEIN it s about ░░░░░░░░ dehumanized Earth It s ░░░░░░░░ belief PETERSON Right but ░░░░░░░░ that we are uniquely ░░░░░░░░ and we need to ░░░░░░░░ eliminated.”