Calif. Law Professor Compares Overturning Roe to Slavery: ‘Forced Birth Is Involuntary Servitude’

RUSH TRANSCRIPT MAXWELL In ░░░░░░░░ New York Times op ░░░░░░░░ lays out the argument ░░░░░░░░ the Supreme Court will ░░░░░░░░ the intent for bodily ░░░░░░░░ for black women in ░░░░░░░░ 13th and 14th Amendment ░░░░░░░░ she argues that the ░░░░░░░░ inflicted on black women ░░░░░░░░ slavery have been all ░░░░░░░░ wiped from cultural and ░░░░░░░░ memory joins me now ░░░░░░░░ is a professor at ░░░░░░░░ University of California irvine ░░░░░░░░ am so excited to ░░░░░░░░ this conversation Professor you ░░░░░░░░ know in your piece ░░░░░░░░ black women s force ░░░░░░░░ were a part of ░░░░░░░░ Use a quote force ░░░░░░░░ was queen Help us ░░░░░░░░ how black women historically ░░░░░░░░ never had the right ░░░░░░░░ bodily autonomy at least ░░░░░░░░ until the reconstruction amendment ░░░░░░░░ GOODWIN Thank you so ░░░░░░░░ for having me on ░░░░░░░░ show and it is ░░░░░░░░ grave error in how ░░░░░░░░ have interpreted history that ░░░░░░░░ fail to take into ░░░░░░░░ what everybody knew That ░░░░░░░░ as a foundational matter ░░░░░░░░ women with a subject ░░░░░░░░ kidnap labor trafficking of ░░░░░░░░ trafficking that was a ░░░░░░░░ of white American slavery ░░░░░░░░ It was explicitly the ░░░░░░░░ of bodily autonomy and ░░░░░░░░ to make decisions about ░░░░░░░░ one wanted to labor ░░░░░░░░ a certain way Very ░░░░░░░░ for black women it ░░░░░░░░ not just about picking ░░░░░░░░ or working in the ░░░░░░░░ with sugar cane but ░░░░░░░░ was expression explicitly sexual ░░░░░░░░ and forced to be ░░░░░░░░ against their choice It ░░░░░░░░ spoken about by members ░░░░░░░░ dissent and black women ░░░░░░░░ particularly how oppose they ░░░░░░░░ to this Famously in ░░░░░░░░ speech said that I ░░░░░░░░ 13 children and I ░░░░░░░░ each of them is ░░░░░░░░ for my arms and ░░░░░░░░ heard my cry But ░░░░░░░░ ain t by a ░░░░░░░░ MAXWELL It is really ░░░░░░░░ to have all of ░░░░░░░░ in your mind as ░░░░░░░░ think through the moment ░░░░░░░░ we are currently and ░░░░░░░░ you consider some of ░░░░░░░░ arguments that are put ░░░░░░░░ by the justices in ░░░░░░░░ majority Do you consider ░░░░░░░░ birth a form of ░░░░░░░░ servitude I think people ░░░░░░░░ made the point that ░░░░░░░░ are forcing people to ░░░░░░░░ into labor literally GOODWIN ░░░░░░░░ is absolutely right Some ░░░░░░░░ say that with they ░░░░░░░░ see in the 13th ░░░░░░░░ is opposed rape Explicitly ░░░░░░░░ the tests it abolish ░░░░░░░░ and involuntary servitude That ░░░░░░░░ mandated pregnancies that black ░░░░░░░░ did not want It ░░░░░░░░ t just the rage ░░░░░░░░ but it was also ░░░░░░░░ that black woman s ░░░░░░░░ was maximizing for people ░░░░░░░░ did not care for ░░░░░░░░ lives and who in ░░░░░░░░ fought to keep them ░░░░░░░░ as property The biggest ░░░░░░░░ debates that took place ░░░░░░░░ the 13th and 14th ░░░░░░░░ is in these very ░░░░░░░░ states with these abortion ░░░░░░░░ It keeps black women ░░░░░░░░ as property That s ░░░░░░░░ what they wanted that ░░░░░░░░ the only status that ░░░░░░░░ wanted for black women ░░░░░░░░ such the property was ░░░░░░░░ their wombs would be ░░░░░░░░ Black women were essentially ░░░░░░░░ as higher and status ░░░░░░░░ a pig sheep or ░░░░░░░░ cow in the fields ░░░░░░░░ is why it was ░░░░░░░░ written about MAXWELL It ░░░░░░░░ so important American history ░░░░░░░░ that vein You make ░░░░░░░░ connection between the ruling ░░░░░░░░ of American history and ░░░░░░░░ attacks against Critical Race ░░░░░░░░ The fact the people ░░░░░░░░ misunderstanding in misinterpreting what ░░░░░░░░ Supreme Court decision means ░░░░░░░░ it relates to the ░░░░░░░░ GOODWIN It is unfortunate ░░░░░░░░ one that we see ░░░░░░░░ is on the desire ░░░░░░░░ pay over these critical ░░░░░░░░ of American history It ░░░░░░░░ inform us so much ░░░░░░░░ this very time today ░░░░░░░░ is a tragedy for ░░░░░░░░ democracy that we see ░░░░░░░░ only the attacks on ░░░░░░░░ new Jim Crow where ░░░░░░░░ is a free state ░░░░░░░░ not free states but ░░░░░░░░ also see attacks on ░░░░░░░░ First Amendment people not ░░░░░░░░ to talk about history ░░░░░░░░ evolves indigenous people black ░░░░░░░░ and the suffrage movement ░░░░░░░░ the same time we ░░░░░░░░ such great ignorance as ░░░░░░░░ relates to our history ░░░░░░░░ point that I will ░░░░░░░░ that stitches so much ░░░░░░░░ this together when we ░░░░░░░░ about the story of ░░░░░░░░ garner she is the ░░░░░░░░ of the book called ░░░░░░░░ written by Tony morrison ░░░░░░░░ can tell a lot ░░░░░░░░ the time that we ░░░░░░░░ in She escaped from ░░░░░░░░ Kentucky a place that ░░░░░░░░ an active antiabortion legislation ░░░░░░░░ she did it in ░░░░░░░░ middle of the night ░░░░░░░░ the thick of winter ░░░░░░░░ she crossed a river ░░░░░░░░ foot They had mules ░░░░░░░░ them and with her ░░░░░░░░ she began trying to ░░░░░░░░ her children when she ░░░░░░░░ the hounds and dogs ░░░░░░░░ with her and the ░░░░░░░░ She began trying to ░░░░░░░░ the man herself She ░░░░░░░░ later charged with murder ░░░░░░░░ the question around the ░░░░░░░░ it was debated all ░░░░░░░░ the world was she ░░░░░░░░ If she was human ░░░░░░░░ could stand trial for ░░░░░░░░ If she was just ░░░░░░░░ then she could be ░░░░░░░░ to slavery The result ░░░░░░░░ asking that question was ░░░░░░░░ she is just property ░░░░░░░░ systems could continue because ░░░░░░░░ Margaret were deemed a ░░░░░░░░ being that would mean ░░░░░░░░ women would be free ░░░░░░░░ free of this subordination.”