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WHITFIELD People found guilty ░░░░░░░░ leaking classified information could ░░░░░░░░ jail time Let s ░░░░░░░░ with Avery a civil ░░░░░░░░ attorney and Richard Herman ░░░░░░░░ criminal defense attorney both ░░░░░░░░ them professors by the ░░░░░░░░ All right good to ░░░░░░░░ you all So Avery ░░░░░░░░ first We re talking ░░░░░░░░ Washington People kind of ░░░░░░░░ like leaks go with ░░░░░░░░ city But if we ░░░░░░░░ talking about classifieded information ░░░░░░░░ is leaked now we ░░░░░░░░ talking about you know ░░░░░░░░ punishment so Avery do ░░░░░░░░ see that potentially happening ░░░░░░░░ FRIEDMAN Well I don ░░░░░░░░ I think you nailed ░░░░░░░░ here Leaks are what ░░░░░░░░ all the time in ░░░░░░░░ The biggest issue here ░░░░░░░░ me is you ve ░░░░░░░░ a lieutenant general who ░░░░░░░░ national security adviser and ░░░░░░░░ communicating with the Russian ░░░░░░░░ after former administration put ░░░░░░░░ on So the focus ░░░░░░░░ be really on what ░░░░░░░░ Flynn did Not on ░░░░░░░░ individual leaks the focus ░░░░░░░░ the administration was the ░░░░░░░░ so what you need ░░░░░░░░ an independent prosecutor which ░░░░░░░░ is is going to ░░░░░░░░ decided by the attorney ░░░░░░░░ Jeff Sessions who is ░░░░░░░░ of the Trump campaign ░░░░░░░░ So at the end ░░░░░░░░ day the little guys ░░░░░░░░ think might get picked ░░░░░░░░ by the Justice Department ░░░░░░░░ than the big guys ░░░░░░░░ So then Richard do ░░░░░░░░ see that happening Because ░░░░░░░░ ve heard back and ░░░░░░░░ there won t be ░░░░░░░░ pursuit of whether you ░░░░░░░░ any investigation should go ░░░░░░░░ with Michael Flynn in ░░░░░░░░ of whether he violated ░░░░░░░░ laws in those conversations ░░░░░░░░ more so on looking ░░░░░░░░ the leakers Do you ░░░░░░░░ that focus could potentially ░░░░░░░░ HERMAN Fred there are ░░░░░░░░ so many issues here ░░░░░░░░ you can t make ░░░░░░░░ up This live drama ░░░░░░░░ we re seeing unfold ░░░░░░░░ day You can want ░░░░░░░░ it up FRIEDMAN That ░░░░░░░░ right HERMAN Every president ░░░░░░░░ dealt with leaks Here ░░░░░░░░ re dealing with classified ░░░░░░░░ you know when the ░░░░░░░░ agencies the CIA and ░░░░░░░░ report to the president ░░░░░░░░ Russia had absolutely influence ░░░░░░░░ the election process and ░░░░░░░░ president says no I ░░░░░░░░ t believe that How ░░░░░░░░ you know There s ░░░░░░░░ of trust with them ░░░░░░░░ now the theory is ░░░░░░░░ leaks are emanating from ░░░░░░░░ FBI and CIA and ░░░░░░░░ people consider themselves patriots ░░░░░░░░ think about it Fred ░░░░░░░░ is totally Republican Who ░░░░░░░░ going to monitor this ░░░░░░░░ objectively who is Who ░░░░░░░░ Congress is monitoring the ░░░░░░░░ WHITFIELD Given HERMAN He ░░░░░░░░ recuse himself but he ░░░░░░░░ t He won t ░░░░░░░░ won t and the ░░░░░░░░ is going to now ░░░░░░░░ get this He s ░░░░░░░░ to put in his ░░░░░░░░ a billionaire who s ░░░░░░░░ to oversee broad review ░░░░░░░░ the intelligence agencies it ░░░░░░░░ beyond ludicrous and this ░░░░░░░░ what we re living ░░░░░░░░ day something new happens ░░░░░░░░ It is So you ░░░░░░░░ Avery go ahead with ░░░░░░░░ point FRIEDMAN Well I ░░░░░░░░ the problem is it ░░░░░░░░ impossible to separate political ░░░░░░░░ legal And on some ░░░░░░░░ the element I m ░░░░░░░░ agreement with that But ░░░░░░░░ we really are honest ░░░░░░░░ want to get to ░░░░░░░░ truth The idea of ░░░░░░░░ independent counsel is really ░░░░░░░░ answer It shouldn t ░░░░░░░░ if the Republicans overload ░░░░░░░░ Congress if the president ░░░░░░░░ looking in the wrong ░░░░░░░░ simply at the leaks ░░░░░░░░ now that the underlying ░░░░░░░░ of Americans communicating with ░░░░░░░░ Russian government I don ░░░░░░░░ think there s any ░░░░░░░░ Let s let an ░░░░░░░░ prosecutor take a look ░░░░░░░░ it s expensive but ░░░░░░░░ Watergate to Monica Lewinsky ░░░░░░░░ monitors get to the ░░░░░░░░ WHITFIELD What s potentially ░░░░░░░░ worst offense Is it ░░░░░░░░ leaks or is is ░░░░░░░░ potentially that Michael Flynn ░░░░░░░░ a conversation about sanctions ░░░░░░░░ they were being imposed ░░░░░░░░ the Obama Administration before ░░░░░░░░ swearing in FRIEDMAN Well ░░░░░░░░ answer is both wrong ░░░░░░░░ question is if you ░░░░░░░░ a policy in place ░░░░░░░░ required sanctions against this ░░░░░░░░ government and you have ░░░░░░░░ individual negotiating with the ░░░░░░░░ ambassador I think the ░░░░░░░░ crime is that That ░░░░░░░░ t excuse misbehavior by ░░░░░░░░ officials that are at ░░░░░░░░ and FBI that might ░░░░░░░░ releasing information The problem ░░░░░░░░ that you need to ░░░░░░░░ in on the larger ░░░░░░░░ WHITFIELD And Richard Want ░░░░░░░░ finalize the thought on ░░░░░░░░ HERMAN Yeah FBI has ░░░░░░░░ a determination that General ░░░░░░░░ did nothing illegal and ░░░░░░░░ you examine this Logan ░░░░░░░░ that you hear everybody ░░░░░░░░ about which nobody has ░░░░░░░░ in the history of ░░░░░░░░ Logan act and forget ░░░░░░░░ There s going to ░░░░░░░░ no criminal prosecution against ░░░░░░░░ for that but there ░░░░░░░░ be an investigation and ░░░░░░░░ s important the American ░░░░░░░░ want to know who ░░░░░░░░ Flynn to go there ░░░░░░░░ directed WHITFIELD There s ░░░░░░░░ real conclusion it s ░░░░░░░░ more the issue of ░░░░░░░░ pursuit of the investigation ░░░░░░░░ Flynn and what he ░░░░░░░░ about happened FRIEDMAN But ░░░░░░░░ won t HERMAN If ░░░░░░░░ don t give Flynn ░░░░░░░░ he s never going ░░░░░░░░ testify And the FBI ░░░░░░░░ going to have to ░░░░░░░░ transcripts FRIEDMAN They re ░░░░░░░░ to have to give ░░░░░░░░ immunity in order to ░░░░░░░░ to the truth here ░░░░░░░░ All right Always good ░░░░░░░░ see you Never long ░░░░░░░░ FRIEDMAN See you too ░░░░░░░░ Thanks so much.”