Charles Koch: ‘Absolutely’ the System Is ‘Rigged in Favor of Companies Like Ours’

‘We have this corporate welfare that benefits established companies and makes it very difficult for somebody to get started’

KARL: "Over the last six years, you got government shutdowns, you got a Republican party that is— seems to be the center of gravity as anti-immigration, critical of free trade. People say you control the Republican Party because of all that money.
KOCH: "Well, if I control the Republican Party, we would not have a two-tiered system. We would not have a tax code that subsidizes the wealthy. We would get rid of all of that, so obviously I don’t control anything."
KARL: "So many people in the country now look at the American economy and they say it is rigged – the rich get richer and that, you know, the working class person has a hard time getting by, wages are stagnant. They say it is rigged. It’s rigged by those at the top."
KOCH: "It is, and that’s— that’s in the policy area that’s our number one policy objective to change that. What I call it is—"
KARL: "So you agree that the system is rigged?"
KOCH: "Absolutely."
KARL: "Is rigged in favor of the wealthiest?"
KOCH: "In favor of companies like ours. Because we have this corporate welfare that benefits established companies and makes it very difficult for somebody to get started."
KARL: "Well, and Republicans are adamant about protecting a lot of these tax breaks."
KOCH: "Absolutely. No, and I can see why they say, ‘Well, there’s a tax break over here, we need one here.’ Well that’s the wrong attitude, we got to get rid of all of them. I don’t hear any of the Republican candidates talking about this two-tiered system and getting rid of it. So that’s why we haven’t supported any of them."
KOCH: "We read— I read, oh, we’ve given millions to this one, millions to that one, and millions to oppose Trump. We’ve done none of that. We haven’t put a penny in any of these campaigns, pro or con."

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