Trump Transition Co-Chair to Collins on Vaccines: ‘Why Do You Think They’re Fine?’

EXCERPT:

LUTNICK: "Wait a minute, let me finish. And so all of these vaccines came out without product liability. So what happened now? Autism is one in 34. Amazing."

COLLINS: "Okay. Neither of us are doctors. Vaccines are safe. RFK — "

LUTNICK: "Why do you think vaccines are safe? There‘s no product liability anymore. They‘re not proven."

COLLINS: "Kids get them and they‘re fine."

LUTNICK: "Why do you think they‘re fine?"

COLLINS: "Because they‘re proven scientifically to be, though."

LUTNICK: "How about this? There was one in 10,000 people with autism. We all know so many more people with autism than that when we were young. Oh, come on."

COLLINS: "Okay, this is — "

LUTNICK: "I mean, his point is really interesting."

COLLINS: "But vaccines don't cause autism, which is what RFK pushes, which is why people are concerned that he could get a job like HHS. And I don‘t even think he can get — "

LUTNICK: "He's not getting a job for HHS. What he‘s trying to do — here‘s what he wants to do. He said, 'I want data. I just want data.' Because they blocked the data — "

COLLINS: "But the data is out there."

LUTNICK: "Wait. It‘s not."

COLLINS: "You can look at it. It's a lie."

LUTNICK: "He wants the data so he can say, 'These things are unsafe.' He says, 'If you give me the data, all I want is the data and I‘ll take on the data and show that it‘s not safe and that if you pull the product liability, the companies will yank these vaccines right off of the market.' So, that‘s his point. He‘s not trying to do anything but things that made sense.”