John Heilemann Says Biden Campaign’s Biggest ‘Worry’ Is It May Be Impossible to Convince Voters He’s Competent

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HEILEMANN: “You know, I had -- I asked her about to kind of try and make the case for, you know, we see surrogates all the time go on TV and say, 'I was at a meeting with Joe Biden recently, and he seemed great. 'And I said, 'Look, most of those people, you know, they've been in one meeting with Joe Biden or a couple.' You -- you spend more time with him or as much time with him, as anybody in the White House over the course the last three years, how do you -- how do you make the case that Biden is? Give me a vivid reason to believe that for those who say, 'Joe Biden is not up to the job.' And she told a great story, which if you listen the podcast, you'll hear it, emotional, powerful, vivid, but it's -- it's a four or five minutes long story. And in this information environment, what you have is the voters they have to reach are people who don't hear the four or five minutes story, they are never going to see Joe Biden that way. What they're going to see is deep fakes, cheap fakes, and not fakes, but images, quick images, that leave a certain impression. And trying to reach people in this environment is really hard, reach anyone in the -- in the environment we live in now, in the information ecosystem. And I think they are, you know, grappling with that, a small set of voters that are very hard to reach with some very significant stubborn concerns about Biden. How do you get through to those people?”