Wolf Blitzer Debates Ben Carson on Value of Jews Being Armed During Holocaust
RUSH TRANSCRIPT:
BLITZER: “The other controversy you've erupted on this issue is in your new book a more perfect union what we the people can do to reclaim our constitutional liberties, is this, ‘a reference to guns and Nazi Germany’. I'll read a couple sentences from the book. ‘German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s and by the mid-1940s Hitler’s regime had mercilessly slaughtered 6 million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior. Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating propaganda the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance’. So what is the point you trying to make, if there were guns, there may not have been a holocaust?”
CARSON: “There were a number of countries where tyranny reigned. Noah Webster said when he was they are armed.”
BLITZER: “But just to clarify, if there had been no gun control laws in Europe at that time, would 6 million Jews have been slaughtered?”
CARSON: “I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed.”
BLITZER: “They had a powerful military machine, as you know, the Nazis.”
CARSON: “I understand that.”
BLITZER: “They could have gone in and did go in and wipe out whole communities.”
CARSON: “There was a reason that they took the guns first, right?”
BLITZER: “You believe if they had guns maybe it could have been eased, is that what you're saying?”
CARSON: “I'm telling you there is a reason these dictatorial people take the guns first.”
BLITZER: “Should kindergarten teachers be armed?”
CARSON: “My point is that many of the places where these mass shootings occur are gun-free Zones. So these people who are crazed but not so crazy as to go into a place where they're likely to get shot, they select these places because they know they're not going to meet resistance. So whether it's the kindergarten teacher who is well trained or a retired policeman or someone who can stop the carnage. I think it makes sense.”
BLITZER: “So you're recommending, and correct me if I'm wrong, elementary schools have guards, armed guards, or at least the teachers be armed?”
CARSON: “I am saying that they should have some mechanism whereby they can defend themselves.”
BLITZER: “What does that mean, some mechanism?”
CARSON: “It means not allowing this person just to come in and have free reign. We should have someone there who is armed, who is trained, and who can handle the weapon.
BLITZER: “And just to be precise I want to wrap up the gun issue, you don't want any additional gun laws in the United States, or do you believe there is room for closing the loophole to buy a gun at a gun show, for example, or have greater background checks if someone has psychological issues?”
CARSON: “I'm a very reasonable person, you'll find. And as long as we don't compromise the second amendment, I'm open for all kind of discussions. We are smart people and we need to be able to use our collective intellect.”
