Yahoo’s Matt Bai: Trump ‘Has No Interest in Governing the Country’

TODD: "Interesting. Matt Bai, you were saying that the first time you covered Donald Trump was when you saw some of those 1999 comments."

BAI: "Yeah. How does—"

TODD: "That was Donald Trump the liberal."

BAI: "I was in his apartment with the marble statues and the what not, we had dinner with Alec Baldwin. I remember. I mean and that was it."

TODD: "Donald Trump and Alec Baldwin at a dinner party. That’s something else."

BAI: "Acharity benefit. And he was talking about running against Pat Buchanan, who now’s become, in a sense— look, you can’t think of this as a campaign. This is my thought. It’s a reality show."

TODD: "Right."

BAI: "He’s been doing this forever. He has no interest in governing the country. He has no plan for governing the country. He’s running for one reason only, so people like us will sit around on sets like this and talk about him. And here we are, and I’m not faulting him for it, because I understand what he’s saying is all real interesting. But I don’t think the polls are indicative of anything other than noise. I don’t think he’s a serious candidate for the presidency. And I don’t think there is any staying power."