MSNBC Guest: You Don’t Have To Have a White Person To Have White Supremacy
HARRIS-PERRY: "It feels to me like part of what's happening here is -- when I say biking while black, we talked about walking while black, in the case in the Freddie gray watching the video and seeing and hearing his agony I keep wondering is there no benefit of a doubt given to a black person in public space. If that is true, if riding an expensive bike in black body inherently generates suspicion then that is the new Jim crow. That's what Jim crow was is that black bodies in public space are inherently suspicion."
BROWN: "Yes. I want to mention two things -- I think it's so ingrained that you don't have to have a white person around to have white supremacy play out."
HARRIS-PERRY: "Just pause for a second. What you just said there is going to be difficult for some folks to hear because the discourse of white supremacy can often mean academic discourse. But for ordinary people sitting at home may say did she call all white people racist. So tease that out a little bit."
BROWN: "I will do my best."
HARRIS-PERRY: "I recognize that it's hard on a TV show."
BROWN: "With an institution like American policing that I believe is founded on anti-blackness, on slave patrols there are things so institutionally ingrained in terms of how we police communities that are anti-black. They may not say in the language that they'll stop and target black people but when you do this type of proactive policing much akined to stop and risk this effects black and brown and poor communities. This would be almost comical this story in Tampa if it wasn't so scary. You have 11 year olds, boys as young as 11 being stopped on their bikes in Tampa. This is introducing children to the criminal justice system at an early age."