HELFELD How much do ░░░░░░░░ pay your interns Pelosi ░░░░░░░░ it depends on the ░░░░░░░░ they are part of ░░░░░░░░ But how much do ░░░░░░░░ get paid Pelosi They ░░░░░░░░ t get paid by ░░░░░░░░ hour they get paid ░░░░░░░░ come in say for ░░░░░░░░ summer or something HELFELD ░░░░░░░░ is their hourly rate ░░░░░░░░ it below minimum wage ░░░░░░░░ It isn t an ░░░░░░░░ rate It s a ░░░░░░░░ for a period of ░░░░░░░░ they come in Many ░░░░░░░░ them would come in ░░░░░░░░ be interns as part ░░░░░░░░ their education There s ░░░░░░░░ stipend for them HELFELD ░░░░░░░░ the stipend more than ░░░░░░░░ minimum wage or less ░░░░░░░░ Yes it s more ░░░░░░░░ So it s more ░░░░░░░░ minimum wage So you ░░░░░░░░ all your interns more ░░░░░░░░ minimum wage for those ░░░░░░░░ work here Pelosi Those ░░░░░░░░ come here to work ░░░░░░░░ a stipend Some have ░░░░░░░░ as part of their ░░░░░░░░ program where they get ░░░░░░░░ for working in an ░░░░░░░░ HELFELD And how much ░░░░░░░░ you pay them Pelosi ░░░░░░░░ I say some of ░░░░░░░░ would come in as ░░░░░░░░ part of their school ░░░░░░░░ are not getting paid ░░░░░░░░ of their education is ░░░░░░░░ work with us and ░░░░░░░░ them in what we ░░░░░░░░ here in government and ░░░░░░░░ would be part of ░░░░░░░░ legislation that would put ░░░░░░░░ by and large we ░░░░░░░░ to encourage them We ░░░░░░░░ to reach out to ░░░░░░░░ young people who need ░░░░░░░░ stipend so that they ░░░░░░░░ take advantage of what ░░░░░░░░ exist here Whether it ░░░░░░░░ the LBJ foundation or ░░░░░░░░ scholarship or the Italian ░░░░░░░░ foundation for different categories ░░░░░░░░ different and we can ░░░░░░░░ have a limited number ░░░░░░░░ interns HELFELD Didn t ░░░░░░░░ say that all services ░░░░░░░░ at least b e ░░░░░░░░ 5 15 And here ░░░░░░░░ a service that s ░░░░░░░░ rendered to you personally ░░░░░░░░ you are not compensating ░░░░░░░░ You know I said ░░░░░░░░ you earlier unless someone ░░░░░░░░ that they want to ░░░░░░░░ and we cannot underestimate ░░░░░░░░ volunteer effort HELFELD So ░░░░░░░░ somebody wants to volunteer ░░░░░░░░ work at McDonald s ░░░░░░░░ 4 00 an hour ░░░░░░░░ that alright Pelosi No ░░░░░░░░ Is that illegal Would ░░░░░░░░ prosecute Pelosi Yes HELFELD ░░░░░░░░ person right Pelosi No ░░░░░░░░ wouldn t prosecute them ░░░░░░░░ the people don t ░░░░░░░░ to work for McDonald ░░░░░░░░ for nothing They are ░░░░░░░░ because they need to ░░░░░░░░ a living HELFELD If ░░░░░░░░ would make a decision ░░░░░░░░ they were willing to ░░░░░░░░ for McDonald s for ░░░░░░░░ 00 an hour it ░░░░░░░░ in their best interest ░░░░░░░░ would be illegal would ░░░░░░░░ not Pelosi No it ░░░░░░░░ not a question being ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ s would want them ░░░░░░░░ They would be responsible ░░░░░░░░ them When somebody comes ░░░░░░░░ here to volunteer in ░░░░░░░░ office we are responsible ░░░░░░░░ them We must supervise ░░░░░░░░ We must train them ░░░░░░░░ must educate them It ░░░░░░░░ a responsibility that we ░░░░░░░░ If somebody goes to ░░░░░░░░ Excuse me but if ░░░░░░░░ s had a program ░░░░░░░░ order to be a ░░░░░░░░ employee you had to ░░░░░░░░ an intern to work ░░░░░░░░ pay for a month ░░░░░░░░ that be illegal Pelosi ░░░░░░░░ m not sure I ░░░░░░░░ t know McDonald s ░░░░░░░░ under a separate law ░░░░░░░░ the indecipherable Law It ░░░░░░░░ a separate law I ░░░░░░░░ all of them are ░░░░░░░░ that law HELFELD Pancake ░░░░░░░░ iIt doesn t matter ░░░░░░░░ employer hiring minimum wage ░░░░░░░░ If they had a ░░░░░░░░ where everybody that had ░░░░░░░░ work for a full ░░░░░░░░ for free as an ░░░░░░░░ first before they hire ░░░░░░░░ would that be illegal ░░░░░░░░ Yes I think they ░░░░░░░░ pay them as you ░░░░░░░░ them HELFELD But in ░░░░░░░░ case you can hire ░░░░░░░░ as interns for free ░░░░░░░░ it s not illegal ░░░░░░░░ s the difference That ░░░░░░░░ re a Congresswoman and ░░░░░░░░ are private enterprise Pelosi ░░░░░░░░ but if you talk ░░░░░░░░ the Red Cross if ░░░░░░░░ talk about the Catholic ░░░░░░░░ the Methodist Church the ░░░░░░░░ Church if you talk ░░░░░░░░ any organization where people ░░░░░░░░ to make a contribution ░░░░░░░░ their country to their ░░░░░░░░ or to their community ░░░░░░░░ have the right to ░░░░░░░░ that HELFELD What about ░░░░░░░░ enterprise Like McDonald s ░░░░░░░░ Burger King or whatever ░░░░░░░░ I think that s ░░░░░░░░ absolutely silly example if ░░░░░░░░ may be so bold ░░░░░░░░ think it s silly ░░░░░░░░ Do you think it ░░░░░░░░ silly the idea that ░░░░░░░░ services are valued less ░░░░░░░░ 4 25 Isn t ░░░░░░░░ true You don t ░░░░░░░░ some services that are ░░░░░░░░ to you at 4 ░░░░░░░░ because you don t ░░░░░░░░ them 4 25 Pelosi ░░░░░░░░ didn t say I ░░░░░░░░ t pay them I ░░░░░░░░ we reach out to ░░░░░░░░ people who want to ░░░░░░░░ in here and we ░░░░░░░░ them a stipend and ░░░░░░░░ try to get those ░░░░░░░░ people HELFELD What is ░░░░░░░░ stipend Pelosi It depends ░░░░░░░░ the length of time ░░░░░░░░ are here But it ░░░░░░░░ comes out higher than ░░░░░░░░ minimum wage And let ░░░░░░░░ say this anytime we ░░░░░░░░ these young people come ░░░░░░░░ and have a great ░░░░░░░░ of competition for the ░░░░░░░░ people who want to ░░░░░░░░ in because they want ░░░░░░░░ learn about government and ░░░░░░░░ want to take credit ░░░░░░░░ HELFELD Some of them ░░░░░░░░ hire and you don ░░░░░░░░ pay them minimum wage ░░░░░░░░ No we do pay ░░░░░░░░ minimum wage HELFELD All ░░░░░░░░ them Pelosi There are ░░░░░░░░ people who do not ░░░░░░░░ to have they want ░░░░░░░░ come and go they ░░░░░░░░ here one hour a ░░░░░░░░ to work on a ░░░░░░░░ issue So they may ░░░░░░░░ meet the standard of ░░░░░░░░ the stipend HELFELD So ░░░░░░░░ don t pay them ░░░░░░░░ all minimum wage Pelosi ░░░░░░░░ know let me finish ░░░░░░░░ because I have to ░░░░░░░░ now I believe I ░░░░░░░░ to say this directly ░░░░░░░░ the camera I have ░░░░░░░░ to make myself available ░░░░░░░░ bottom line rational solution ░░░░░░░░ I believe that there ░░░░░░░░ in this country a ░░░░░░░░ body of people who ░░░░░░░░ the work of people ░░░░░░░░ work in the system ░░░░░░░░ would come to me ░░░░░░░░ say You d be ░░░░░░░░ what profit we can ░░░░░░░░ if only we had ░░░░░░░░ low wages I wouldn ░░░░░░░░ be surprised I wouldn ░░░░░░░░ be surprised I have ░░░░░░░░ myself available I have ░░░░░░░░ your question HELFELD You ░░░░░░░░ evaded the questions that ░░░░░░░░ ve asked Let me ░░░░░░░░ you what I think ░░░░░░░░ the bottom line Pelosi ░░░░░░░░ hour is up HELFELD ░░░░░░░░ refused to answer the ░░░░░░░░ I wanted to tell ░░░░░░░░ what I think is ░░░░░░░░ bottom line Pelosi You ░░░░░░░░ really made a mistake ░░░░░░░░ Why did I do ░░░░░░░░ mistake Pelosi Because I ░░░░░░░░ if you wanted to ░░░░░░░░ a discussion about the ░░░░░░░░ wage you would have ░░░░░░░░ your questions and moved ░░░░░░░░ other aspects of it ░░░░░░░░ you have one question ░░░░░░░░ don t have anymore ░░░░░░░░ for this That s ░░░░░░░░ Your time is up ░░░░░░░░ interview is over Please ░░░░░░░░ the cameras HELFELD Do ░░░░░░░░ think it will harm ░░░░░░░░ to answer my questions ░░░░░░░░ Terry will you please ░░░░░░░░ the guard Because this ░░░░░░░░ is over HELFELD No ░░░░░░░░ m just telling you ░░░░░░░░ s over now You ░░░░░░░░ accept the fact that ░░░░░░░░ interview is over or ░░░░░░░░