Malcolm Nance on ‘OK’ Symbol at Army/Navy Game: ‘This Is Now a National Scandal’

RUSH TRANSCRIPT GIBSON Controversy ░░░░░░░░ the sidelines of the ░░░░░░░░ navy game President Trump ░░░░░░░░ the rivalry in Philadelphia ░░░░░░░░ the field for the ░░░░░░░░ toss but it s ░░░░░░░░ happened before the game ░░░░░░░░ the military say they ░░░░░░░░ now investigating West Point ░░░░░░░░ and a midshipman captured ░░░░░░░░ camera flashing what appeared ░░░░░░░░ be a white supremacist ░░░░░░░░ sign during pregame festivities ░░░░░░░░ is social media here ░░░░░░░░ the signal It resembles ░░░░░░░░ ok sign with the ░░░░░░░░ and forefinger joined in ░░░░░░░░ circle The remaining fingers ░░░░░░░░ the shape of a ░░░░░░░░ and a P presumably ░░░░░░░░ white power It is ░░░░░░░░ by groups as a ░░░░░░░░ power sign The gesture ░░░░░░░░ also used in the ░░░░░░░░ game A kids game ░░░░░░░░ someone holds a sign ░░░░░░░░ someone notices it then ░░░░░░░░ person making the symbol ░░░░░░░░ able to punch the ░░░░░░░░ who noticed it on ░░░░░░░░ shoulder Military officials say ░░░░░░░░ intent this time is ░░░░░░░░ Joining me to talk ░░░░░░░░ this Malcolm Nance author ░░░░░░░░ MSNBC contributor You are ░░░░░░░░ Navy veteran What is ░░░░░░░░ take on this NANCE ░░░░░░░░ am an old Navy ░░░░░░░░ That is bad for ░░░░░░░░ take since I am ░░░░░░░░ chief Let me tell ░░░░░░░░ as an old chief ░░░░░░░░ take a very dim ░░░░░░░░ of their behavior in ░░░░░░░░ of the camera I ░░░░░░░░ tell you whether it ░░░░░░░░ a white power symbol ░░░░░░░░ whether it was the ░░░░░░░░ you look game One ░░░░░░░░ them appeared to be ░░░░░░░░ make you look game ░░░░░░░░ other didn t You ░░░░░░░░ what I m going ░░░░░░░░ leave it to the ░░░░░░░░ of West Point The ░░░░░░░░ of the U S ░░░░░░░░ academy who believe me ░░░░░░░░ are going to be ░░░░░░░░ through this with a ░░░░░░░░ The appearance of dignity ░░░░░░░░ West Point and the ░░░░░░░░ academy have been breached ░░░░░░░░ that is precisely why ░░░░░░░░ tomorrow morning we are ░░░░░░░░ to have some very ░░░░░░░░ looks into precisely what ░░░░░░░░ Sign of the times ░░░░░░░░ do we see more ░░░░░░░░ more of these sentiments ░░░░░░░░ We are not sure ░░░░░░░░ we are seeing that ░░░░░░░░ As you know alt ░░░░░░░░ hijacked the okay symbol ░░░░░░░░ this in front of ░░░░░░░░ know television cameras and ░░░░░░░░ which makes the symbol ░░░░░░░░ for white power For ░░░░░░░░ long time the media ░░░░░░░░ playing this role and ░░░░░░░░ that that was just ░░░░░░░░ hoax that was being ░░░░░░░░ It is now being ░░░░░░░░ everywhere as a symbol ░░░░░░░░ white supremacy white power ░░░░░░░░ Trumpism We have seen ░░░░░░░░ officers including one who ░░░░░░░░ on a security detail ░░░░░░░░ the vice president was ░░░░░░░░ because they were using ░░░░░░░░ symbols But you know ░░░░░░░░ does exist this subculture ░░░░░░░░ the armed forces that ░░░░░░░░ this stupid little game ░░░░░░░░ which you put your ░░░░░░░░ know an okay symbol ░░░░░░░░ the waist and the ░░░░░░░░ person has to try ░░░░░░░░ put his finger through ░░░░░░░░ or you get punched ░░░░░░░░ has been around since ░░░░░░░░ my time in the ░░░░░░░░ forces and my father ░░░░░░░░ time in World War ░░░░░░░░ But what we are ░░░░░░░░ now is you may ░░░░░░░░ seeing people who have ░░░░░░░░ know not doing good ░░░░░░░░ and discipline in the ░░░░░░░░ but you may also ░░░░░░░░ seeing people who have ░░░░░░░░ opportunity to present a ░░░░░░░░ power symbol And again ░░░░░░░░ are not going to ░░░░░░░░ the arbiters of this ░░░░░░░░ armed forces are and ░░░░░░░░ are going to take ░░░░░░░░ extremely dim view of ░░░░░░░░ GIBSON Every single anybody ░░░░░░░░ played basketball knows that ░░░░░░░░ also a sign for ░░░░░░░░ three pointer So like ░░░░░░░░ said it s all ░░░░░░░░ intent Back to the ░░░░░░░░ what disciplinary action do ░░░░░░░░ think these students could ░░░░░░░░ face NANCE Well they ░░░░░░░░ already facing it because ░░░░░░░░ the time that they ░░░░░░░░ back to their buses ░░░░░░░░ go back to the ░░░░░░░░ or up at West ░░░░░░░░ they will have been ░░░░░░░░ by their senior non ░░░░░░░░ officers or senior cadets ░░░░░░░░ were actually very clear ░░░░░░░░ they were By that ░░░░░░░░ it will have gone ░░░░░░░░ the chain of command ░░░░░░░░ to when they arrived ░░░░░░░░ at the academies and ░░░░░░░░ investigations have been started ░░░░░░░░ the cadet leadership level ░░░░░░░░ to mention a large ░░░░░░░░ coming down from the ░░░░░░░░ s office and commander ░░░░░░░░ office at the naval ░░░░░░░░ This is now a ░░░░░░░░ scandal even though it ░░░░░░░░ not be a scandal ░░░░░░░░ you know what We ░░░░░░░░ going to find out ░░░░░░░░ all of their senior ░░░░░░░░ commissioned officers senior ranking ░░░░░░░░ are going to be ░░░░░░░░ down on top of ░░░░░░░░ like a ton of ░░░░░░░░ because they have disgraced ░░░░░░░░ armed forces whether they ░░░░░░░░ as we say lallygagging ░░░░░░░░ playing around or whether ░░░░░░░░ actually had the intent ░░░░░░░░ make that symbol in ░░░░░░░░ of a national audience ░░░░░░░░ Malcolm thank you sir ░░░░░░░░ your expertise and your ░░░░░░░░