so joining us now ░░░░░░░░ help us understand the ░░░░░░░░ and the madness of ░░░░░░░░ new d h role ░░░░░░░░ more is immigration attorney ░░░░░░░░ or happy be here ░░░░░░░░ s for joining us ░░░░░░░░ the place well you ░░░░░░░░ done your research yeah ░░░░░░░░ was like wait what ░░░░░░░░ let me check on ░░░░░░░░ fabulous campus look the ░░░░░░░░ is kind of making ░░░░░░░░ clear that this and ░░░░░░░░ other moves are strictly ░░░░░░░░ the purpose of deterring ░░░░░░░░ and asylum seekers and ░░░░░░░░ they re also claiming ░░░░░░░░ these new rules will ░░░░░░░░ a higher quality of ░░░░░░░░ to those in custody ░░░░░░░░ kind of opposite ends ░░░░░░░░ s the reality and ░░░░░░░░ how will Border Patrol ░░░░░░░░ able to do now ░░░░░░░░ they haven t been ░░░░░░░░ to do because of ░░░░░░░░ Flores settlement yeah they ░░░░░░░░ right this is a ░░░░░░░░ it s a political ░░░░░░░░ first secondly they re ░░░░░░░░ in to make a ░░░░░░░░ a court argument in ░░░░░░░░ political arena which isn ░░░░░░░░ gonna work right the ░░░░░░░░ settlement ends when Congress ░░░░░░░░ so because Congress isn ░░░░░░░░ doing anything the floor ░░░░░░░░ will continue and it ░░░░░░░░ just understanding of migrating ░░░░░░░░ terms and what you ░░░░░░░░ up in the story ░░░░░░░░ the Obama Administration tried ░░░░░░░░ and failed horribly so ░░░░░░░░ he s just recreating ░░░░░░░░ problem of all these ░░░░░░░░ and families being detained ░░░░░░░░ abuse lead him to ░░░░░░░░ life of drugs right ░░░░░░░░ gang violence right over ░░░░░░░░ over again so you ░░░░░░░░ really set up the ░░░░░░░░ issue here and the ░░░░░░░░ is trying to survive ░░░░░░░░ not be a crime ░░░░░░░░ that s the only ░░░░░░░░ these individuals are doing ░░░░░░░░ don t treat people ░░░░░░░░ other ports of entry ░░░░░░░░ way so why are ░░░░░░░░ treating people at our ░░░░░░░░ port of entry this ░░░░░░░░ and moving them across ░░░░░░░░ United States like they ░░░░░░░░ chattel they re not ░░░░░░░░ re people so it ░░░░░░░░ the humanitarian crisis and ░░░░░░░░ s time for the ░░░░░░░░ to step in and ░░░░░░░░ as human beings this ░░░░░░░░ the standard that we ░░░░░░░░ gonna follow and that ░░░░░░░░ not it there s ░░░░░░░░ story about this that ░░░░░░░░ know from the war ░░░░░░░░ right these are concentration ░░░░░░░░ that s what they ░░░░░░░░ no matter what you ░░░░░░░░ them and say the ░░░░░░░░ can play and there ░░░░░░░░ food there and there ░░░░░░░░ couches well golly gee ░░░░░░░░ exactly and big screen ░░░░░░░░ and guards and detention ░░░░░░░░ that got closed down ░░░░░░░░ of like how they ░░░░░░░░ abusing people in them ░░░░░░░░ I think the interesting ░░░░░░░░ that you may tell ░░░░░░░░ talk about later is ░░░░░░░░ how many times the ░░░░░░░░ has been sued for ░░░░░░░░ conditions in these facilities ░░░░░░░░ now they re saying ░░░░░░░░ are great facilities when ░░░░░░░░ fact you ve seen ░░░░░░░░ you ve actually seen ░░░░░░░░ vice president go to ░░░░░░░░ port and see these ░░░░░░░░ facilities and say they ░░░░░░░░ great that s a ░░░░░░░░ bit problematic and not ░░░░░░░░ able to make those ░░░░░░░░ kind of gel in ░░░░░░░░ to that the underlying ░░░░░░░░ that you talked about ░░░░░░░░ before when you had ░░░░░░░░ on the show first ░░░░░░░░ who profits from this ░░░░░░░░ prisons his friends right ░░░░░░░░ blocked up a large ░░░░░░░░ of the United States ░░░░░░░░ now we re gonna ░░░░░░░░ to lock up the ░░░░░░░░ of the world it ░░░░░░░░ t work for us ░░░░░░░░ it shouldn t work ░░░░░░░░ them what are the ░░░░░░░░ things that happened this ░░░░░░░░ is as you said ░░░░░░░░ s lawsuits and these ░░░░░░░░ the sort of things ░░░░░░░░ the reason the floor ░░░░░░░░ floor a settlement is ░░░░░░░░ is because of the ░░░░░░░░ because of class actions ░░░░░░░░ s how you make ░░░░░░░░ difference and we had ░░░░░░░░ new one this week ░░░░░░░░ the new one is ░░░░░░░░ the Immigration and Customs ░░░░░░░░ four they call failure ░░░░░░░░ insure constitutionally adequate which ░░░░░░░░ not be difficult in ░░░░░░░░ United States is constitutionally ░░░░░░░░ health and mental care ░░░░░░░░ s important to note ░░░░░░░░ the plaintiffs in that ░░░░░░░░ are not seeking any ░░░░░░░░ damages they re not ░░░░░░░░ for any money they ░░░░░░░░ asking for change and ░░░░░░░░ there it says the ░░░░░░░░ states these human beings ░░░░░░░░ of whom have fled ░░░░░░░░ are packed into immigration ░░░░░░░░ in which they are ░░░░░░░░ health care refused disability ░░░░░░░░ and subjected to arbitrary ░░░░░░░░ isolation a practice that ░░░░░░░░ increasingly considered torture could ░░░░░░░░ be sort of the ░░░░░░░░ of a new Flores ░░░░░░░░ and and at least ░░░░░░░░ on that way so ░░░░░░░░ ll have it something ░░░░░░░░ legal situation where they ░░░░░░░░ fight it in court ░░░░░░░░ and how could another ░░░░░░░░ action how could this ░░░░░░░░ Flores stronger what could ░░░░░░░░ do to truly protect ░░░░░░░░ right so we need ░░░░░░░░ they act that s ░░░░░░░░ first thing right we ░░░░░░░░ to take this away ░░░░░░░░ the administration s and ░░░░░░░░ this in the hands ░░░░░░░░ it belongs the people ░░░░░░░░ sort of follow the ░░░░░░░░ secondly the problem with ░░░░░░░░ CBP issue is that ░░░░░░░░ re not supposed to ░░░░░░░░ there that long so ░░░░░░░░ health care issues are ░░░░░░░░ supposed to exist so ░░░░░░░░ processing should happen faster ░░░░░░░░ that s really what ░░░░░░░░ need to address we ░░░░░░░░ to address the push ░░░░░░░░ and then we can ░░░░░░░░ sort of the pool ░░░░░░░░ so if we wanted ░░░░░░░░ solve this problem we ░░░░░░░░ stop meeting people at ░░░░░░░░ border we d accept ░░░░░░░░ many people as you ░░░░░░░░ process it as soon ░░░░░░░░ possible and then we ░░░░░░░░ address the conditions in ░░░░░░░░ home countries if we ░░░░░░░░ not gonna address the ░░░░░░░░ in the home country ░░░░░░░░ concerned about who shows ░░░░░░░░ prior border really isn ░░░░░░░░ a problem right because ░░░░░░░░ just want to fund ░░░░░░░░ continually move money away ░░░░░░░░ the deficit which is ░░░░░░░░ big problem right now ░░░░░░░░ we know in the ░░░░░░░░ today to these private ░░░░░░░░ right and if you ░░░░░░░░ asking me and I ░░░░░░░░ not a socialist prison ░░░░░░░░ the biggest form of ░░░░░░░░ you can possibly think ░░░░░░░░ right as a system ░░░░░░░░ you soar against welfare ░░░░░░░░ you should be against ░░░░░░░░ when all of these ░░░░░░░░ have alternative means to ░░░░░░░░ of take care of ░░░░░░░░ turn them to the ░░░░░░░░ let the people who ░░░░░░░░ here that say they ░░░░░░░░ about them take care ░░░░░░░░ them there s also ░░░░░░░░ lack of unders think ░░░░░░░░ s a very lack ░░░░░░░░ understanding of about that ░░░░░░░░ person system as it ░░░░░░░░ now is not a ░░░░░░░░ it is not a ░░░░░░░░ it is constitutionally acceptable ░░░░░░░░ well let s just ░░░░░░░░ back to that whole ░░░░░░░░ about the prison system ░░░░░░░░ deterrence right it hasn ░░░░░░░░ worked as a deterrent ░░░░░░░░ in the system before ░░░░░░░░ when you re fleeing ░░░░░░░░ your life prison is ░░░░░░░░ ripple solution right if ░░░░░░░░ knew that anyway right ░░░░░░░░ the issue is we ░░░░░░░░ saying oh they re ░░░░░░░░ because they crossed the ░░░░░░░░ illegally let s sort ░░░░░░░░ talk about that in ░░░░░░░░ s function these women ░░░░░░░░ for months at a ░░░░░░░░ with their children they ░░░░░░░░ to what is not ░░░░░░░░ port of entry because ░░░░░░░░ don t know the ░░░░░░░░ of entry is because ░░░░░░░░ might have educational deficiencies ░░░░░░░░ they don t have ░░░░░░░░ map or they can ░░░░░░░░ read a map and ░░░░░░░░ they turn themselves in ░░░░░░░░ you were fleeing from ░░░░░░░░ government turning yourself in ░░░░░░░░ not be the way ░░░░░░░░ do it and we ░░░░░░░░ this over and over ░░░░░░░░ over again in the ░░░░░░░░ right now the border ░░░░░░░░ say that all the ░░░░░░░░ that they have there ░░░░░░░░ people showing up and ░░░░░░░░ you always see these ░░░░░░░░ stories of how they ░░░░░░░░ someone do something and ░░░░░░░░ I think that many ░░░░░░░░ them do a great ░░░░░░░░ don t get me ░░░░░░░░ the problem is an ░░░░░░░░ management problem and the ░░░░░░░░ that we re handling ░░░░░░░░ humanitarian crisis do we ░░░░░░░░ to fix it or ░░░░░░░░ we not want to ░░░░░░░░ it we keep trying ░░░░░░░░ say there are others ░░░░░░░░ to take us and ░░░░░░░░ you heard from the ░░░░░░░░ of the White House ░░░░░░░░ they really want to ░░░░░░░░ the rule about birthright ░░░░░░░░ the final thing of ░░░░░░░░ United States that sort ░░░░░░░░ say Oh whip idli ░░░░░░░░ you know we re ░░░░░░░░ on that too yeah ░░░░░░░░ they re twice if ░░░░░░░░ re 23andme says you ░░░░░░░░ enough European and great ░░░░░░░░ of a certain area ░░░░░░░░ you get to stay ░░░░░░░░ you don t get ░░░░░░░░ it really is driving ░░░░░░░░ up the wall every ░░░░░░░░ I see it s ░░░░░░░░ every new week they ░░░░░░░░ coming up with some ░░░░░░░░ thing and and what ░░░░░░░░ interesting is also that ░░░░░░░░ s at least a ░░░░░░░░ of case law and ░░░░░░░░ attached to many of ░░░░░░░░ asylum and immigration rules ░░░░░░░░ isn t some new 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░░░░░░░░ constitutional foundations for periods ░░░░░░░░ time the floors settlement ░░░░░░░░ been around since 1985 ░░░░░░░░ is not a new ░░░░░░░░ that s the thing ░░░░░░░░ think we you know ░░░░░░░░ the one thing that ░░░░░░░░ can say about Obama ░░░░░░░░ he wasn t racist ░░░░░░░░ his immigration policies you ░░░░░░░░ know white black brown ░░░░░░░░ policy wasn t specifically ░░░░░░░░ that parts of the ░░░░░░░░ or that and I ░░░░░░░░ trying to tie immigrate ░░░░░░░░ immigration issue and sort ░░░░░░░░ say well we ll ░░░░░░░░ it at our prison ░░░░░░░░ is probably the biggest ░░░░░░░░ politically is going to ░░░░░░░░ you can t just ░░░░░░░░ building prisons all over ░░░░░░░░ United States people don ░░░░░░░░ want them in their ░░░░░░░░ even if they are ░░░░░░░░ law and order they ░░░░░░░░ t want more prisons ░░░░░░░░ can t keep building ░░░░░░░░ in there yeah Alan ░░░░░░░░ you