RUSH TRANSCRIPT In the ░░░░░░░░ of the El Paso ░░░░░░░░ renewed attention is being ░░░░░░░░ to the white nationalist ░░░░░░░░ theory that white people ░░░░░░░░ being replaced by people ░░░░░░░░ color This is leading ░░░░░░░░ to believe that President ░░░░░░░░ s words on immigrants ░░░░░░░░ the border crisis are ░░░░░░░░ legitimacy to the racist ░░░░░░░░ Joining me now to ░░░░░░░░ is Ruth bengiad a ░░░░░░░░ of history at nyu ░░░░░░░░ CNN presidential historian Doug ░░░░░░░░ So glad to have ░░░░░░░░ of you on Thank ░░░░░░░░ so much Ruth I ░░░░░░░░ going to start with ░░░░░░░░ because you say the ░░░░░░░░ s racially charged rhetoric ░░░░░░░░ strategic telling Washington Post ░░░░░░░░ This is a concerted ░░░░░░░░ to construct and legitimize ░░░░░░░░ ideology of hatred against ░░░░░░░░ people and the idea ░░░░░░░░ whites will be replaced ░░░░░░░░ others When you have ░░░░░░░░ racist in power who ░░░░░░░░ violence through his speeches ░░░░░░░░ Tweets and you add ░░░░░░░░ this volatile situation of ░░░░░░░░ laxly regulated arms this ░░░░░░░░ uncharted territory Are we ░░░░░░░░ a real world consequences ░░░░░░░░ this kind of racial ░░░░░░░░ and rhetoric you think ░░░░░░░░ The Sorry Absolutely The ░░░░░░░░ Paso shooting was clearly ░░░░░░░░ example of that with ░░░░░░░░ that closely matched Donald ░░░░░░░░ s rhetoric and I ░░░░░░░░ to stress that this ░░░░░░░░ of white racial replacement ░░░░░░░░ and it fits with ░░░░░░░░ invasion rhetoric because there ░░░░░░░░ this fear that people ░░░░░░░░ color will come in ░░░░░░░░ populate but this is ░░░░░░░░ very old thing that ░░░░░░░░ all the way back ░░░░░░░░ fascism it s 100 ░░░░░░░░ old The right used ░░░░░░░░ Mussolini talking about the ░░░░░░░░ race dying and yellow ░░░░░░░░ brown people at The ░░░░░░░░ to Hitler and it ░░░░░░░░ also a talking point ░░░░░░░░ the new right all ░░░░░░░░ the world and in ░░░░░░░░ which is funded by ░░░░░░░░ So what Trump is ░░░░░░░░ with his rhetoric of ░░░░░░░░ and racial division is ░░░░░░░░ just about America s ░░░░░░░░ demographics it s a ░░░░░░░░ wing talking point For ░░░░░░░░ to see this happening ░░░░░░░░ is it shocking to ░░░░░░░░ What are you thinking ░░░░░░░░ you see this I ░░░░░░░░ that Donald Trump is ░░░░░░░░ power now to take ░░░░░░░░ out of the realm ░░░░░░░░ democracy and align it ░░░░░░░░ authoritarian regimes like Putins ░░░░░░░░ orbans that are founded ░░░░░░░░ a kind of white ░░░░░░░░ Douglas I want to ░░░░░░░░ you in I want ░░░░░░░░ to weigh in on ░░░░░░░░ Ruth is saying here ░░░░░░░░ you know this whole ░░░░░░░░ you know white people ░░░░░░░░ going to somehow be ░░░░░░░░ is not new I ░░░░░░░░ Ruth just mentioned some ░░░░░░░░ Do you know of ░░░░░░░░ Well you know today ░░░░░░░░ Morrison died our great ░░░░░░░░ Nobel prize winner Wrote ░░░░░░░░ epic books like Beloved ░░░░░░░░ Song of Solomon and ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump was elected ░░░░░░░░ wrote an essay in ░░░░░░░░ New Yorker in November ░░░░░░░░ called Mourning for whiteness ░░░░░░░░ what she argued was ░░░░░░░░ this fear of white ░░░░░░░░ is what motivated the ░░░░░░░░ of Donald Trump This ░░░░░░░░ that America will be ░░░░░░░░ 40 caucasian and that ░░░░░░░░ was a backlash figure ░░░░░░░░ than George Wallace It ░░░░░░░░ all about white privilege ░░░░░░░░ decline Alas I m ░░░░░░░░ Toni Morrison s essay ░░░░░░░░ turning prophetic as we ░░░░░░░░ through all of the ░░░░░░░░ that Donald Trump has ░░░░░░░░ to earn this sort ░░░░░░░░ credential as our most ░░░░░░░░ president of modern times ░░░░░░░░ you know Trump consistently ░░░░░░░░ a very loaded word ░░░░░░░░ talking about the southern ░░░░░░░░ I want you to ░░░░░░░░ to this I declared ░░░░░░░░ national emergency which is ░░░░░░░░ it is This is ░░░░░░░░ invasion When you see ░░░░░░░░ caravans starting out with ░░░░░░░░ 000 people that s ░░░░░░░░ invasion I was badly ░░░░░░░░ for using the word ░░░░░░░░ It s an invasion ░░░░░░░░ things I ve heard ░░░░░░░░ say well that s ░░░░░░░░ you know racist or ░░░░░░░░ say that it s ░░░░░░░░ wrong to say that ░░░░░░░░ also what does that ░░░░░░░░ invoke This is stoking ░░░░░░░░ fears that have been ░░░░░░░░ of right wing rhetoric ░░░░░░░░ the fascists through Chile ░░░░░░░░ to today of being ░░░░░░░░ of being in a ░░░░░░░░ situation and right wing ░░░░░░░░ often use them to ░░░░░░░░ states of emergency Like ░░░░░░░░ forever wars at the ░░░░░░░░ But one thing I ░░░░░░░░ to stress is one ░░░░░░░░ we are in uncharted ░░░░░░░░ is that there s ░░░░░░░░ white nationalists in power ░░░░░░░░ and they ve ruined ░░░░░░░░ but there s never ░░░░░░░░ one in power when ░░░░░░░░ are 400 million plus ░░░░░░░░ in the hands of ░░░░░░░░ citizens Some of them ░░░░░░░░ arsenals that normally you ░░░░░░░░ only in mercenaries or ░░░░░░░░ leaders So this combination ░░░░░░░░ we saw in a ░░░░░░░░ wolf in El Paso ░░░░░░░░ white nationalist stoking from ░░░░░░░░ White House hatred with ░░░░░░░░ availability of arms is ░░░░░░░░ that is uncharted territory ░░░░░░░░ I have to you ░░░░░░░░ I got to ask ░░░░░░░░ is there any way ░░░░░░░░ turn this around What ░░░░░░░░ a president need to ░░░░░░░░ here Well since he ░░░░░░░░ going to Dayton and ░░░░░░░░ Paso I think particularly ░░░░░░░░ El Paso he has ░░░░░░░░ talk about comprehensive background ░░░░░░░░ and turn on that ░░░░░░░░ demand that semiautomatic weapons ░░░░░░░░ of them are banned ░░░░░░░░ more high capacity magazines ░░░░░░░░ needs to do a ░░░░░░░░ gun control speech It ░░░░░░░░ remote that he ll ░░░░░░░░ that but that he ░░░░░░░░ to be a leader ░░░░░░░░ this issue He also ░░░░░░░░ to show heart and ░░░░░░░░ You were just talking ░░░░░░░░ when you re that ░░░░░░░░ of narcissistic personality you ░░░░░░░░ no empathy and compassion ░░░░░░░░ people can tell whether ░░░░░░░░ have empathy The way ░░░░░░░░ and Chris Cuomo have ░░░░░░░░ talking about El Paso ░░░░░░░░ can feel just watching ░░░░░░░░ guys the empathy When ░░░░░░░░ saw Donald Trump read ░░░░░░░░ the TelePrompTer about El ░░░░░░░░ there was no empathy ░░░░░░░░ It was something he ░░░░░░░░ to dial in and ░░░░░░░░ behind him And so ░░░░░░░░ is his Oklahoma City ░░░░░░░░ moment when Bill Clinton ░░░░░░░░ that remarkable speech He ░░░░░░░░ to deliver something here ░░░░░░░░ otherwise it s just ░░░░░░░░ wasted opportunity to heal ░░░░░░░░ country Douglas Ruth thank ░░░░░░░░ both We ll be ░░░░░░░░ back.