RUSH TRANSCRIPT Esurance An ░░░░░░░░ company Click or call ░░░░░░░░ breaking news tonight is ░░░░░░░░ Michael Cohen is willing ░░░░░░░░ Assert to special counsel ░░░░░░░░ Mueller that Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ Told by his son ░░░░░░░░ the Meeting with Russians ░░░░░░░░ Trump Tower Joining me ░░░░░░░░ two federal Prosecutors Thank ░░░░░░░░ so much for joining ░░░░░░░░ This evening Laura just ░░░░░░░░ out the same Question ░░░░░░░░ asked what is the ░░░░░░░░ here from Michael Cohen ░░░░░░░░ he sending a signal ░░░░░░░░ the President the only ░░░░░░░░ the President can do ░░░░░░░░ pay his Legal bills ░░░░░░░░ pardon him if Charged ░░░░░░░░ is he sending a ░░░░░░░░ to Robert Mueller and ░░░░░░░░ Southern District of New ░░░░░░░░ I Have information I ░░░░░░░░ ready to Talk let ░░░░░░░░ cut a deal What ░░░░░░░░ happening here I think ░░░░░░░░ s both I think ░░░░░░░░ you re seeing here ░░░░░░░░ he has not been ░░░░░░░░ over by a Bus ░░░░░░░░ run over by Air ░░░░░░░░ One He s trying ░░░░░░░░ figure out a way ░░░░░░░░ of it he feels ░░░░░░░░ he s Drowning He ░░░░░░░░ looking to two different ░░░░░░░░ lines He knows the ░░░░░░░░ pardon Power is there ░░░░░░░░ hasn t gotten any ░░░░░░░░ That it s coming ░░░░░░░░ him They re trying ░░░░░░░░ distance Themselves from him ░░░░░░░░ going So far tonight ░░░░░░░░ to attack his Credibility ░░░░░░░░ other lifeline is to ░░░░░░░░ I Have something valuable ░░░░░░░░ Offer I know there ░░░░░░░░ be a Grand jury ░░░░░░░░ s now convening Trying ░░░░░░░░ decide whether I ll ░░░░░░░░ Charged on federal criminal ░░░░░░░░ please allow me the ░░░░░░░░ to do what Prosecutors ░░░░░░░░ which is to give ░░░░░░░░ best plea offer or ░░░░░░░░ best Cooperation agreement before ░░░░░░░░ The work is complete ░░░░░░░░ s hoping that this ░░░░░░░░ The court of public ░░░░░░░░ Through the media I ░░░░░░░░ have that Opportunity It ░░░░░░░░ like right now don ░░░░░░░░ probably has not already ░░░░░░░░ A chance to have ░░░░░░░░ meeting To have this ░░░░░░░░ about Tell me what ░░░░░░░░ know and what Would ░░░░░░░░ good for the government ░░░░░░░░ be able to use ░░░░░░░░ are you An asset ░░░░░░░░ not He s trying ░░░░░░░░ show that he Might ░░░░░░░░ Okay So Renato could ░░░░░░░░ indicate Something has gone ░░░░░░░░ with Negotiations that were ░░░░░░░░ Under way I will ░░░░░░░░ you it does not ░░░░░░░░ sense to me as ░░░░░░░░ Negotiation strategy with the ░░░░░░░░ If I represented Michael ░░░░░░░░ And he told me ░░░░░░░░ wanted to Flip I ░░░░░░░░ not be on Television ░░░░░░░░ wouldn t have him ░░░░░░░░ an interview with George ░░░░░░░░ I wouldn t be ░░░░░░░░ Chatting with Tom Arnold ░░░░░░░░ all These other folks ░░░░░░░░ I would do have ░░░░░░░░ Private conversations with the ░░░░░░░░ States attorney s office ░░░░░░░░ to them about what ░░░░░░░░ know And I wouldn ░░░░░░░░ seem so eager to ░░░░░░░░ You know when you ░░░░░░░░ in any Kind of ░░░░░░░░ whether You re trying ░░░░░░░░ negotiate to Sell a ░░░░░░░░ or trying to Negotiate ░░░░░░░░ get a date with ░░░░░░░░ you don t want ░░░░░░░░ seem Too eager Is ░░░░░░░░ maybe just about his ░░░░░░░░ or he sees himself ░░░░░░░░ the media you know ░░░░░░░░ Honestly I hate to ░░░░░░░░ this as Appearing to ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump s Lackey ░░░░░░░░ he just does not ░░░░░░░░ That being his legacy ░░░░░░░░ know what I would ░░░░░░░░ Him if he told ░░░░░░░░ that don if He ░░░░░░░░ me if I was ░░░░░░░░ lawyer And he said ░░░░░░░░ m concerned about My ░░░░░░░░ I would tell him ░░░░░░░░ Over yourself man you ░░░░░░░░ Looking at time in ░░░░░░░░ Prison that s way ░░░░░░░░ Important than your legacy ░░░░░░░░ How you appear on ░░░░░░░░ you ll Write a ░░░░░░░░ and do a book ░░░░░░░░ Later for right now ░░░░░░░░ need to Get you ░░░░░░░░ of this problem and ░░░░░░░░ else is secondary to ░░░░░░░░ You don t see ░░░░░░░░ Positive in what he ░░░░░░░░ done the Interview that ░░░░░░░░ supposed to Be televised ░░░░░░░░ least on camera With ░░░░░░░░ Stephanopoulos You know what ░░░░░░░░ help is The help ░░░░░░░░ with the president Frankly ░░░░░░░░ doesn t seem to ░░░░░░░░ working We saw Guiliani ░░░░░░░░ hour Trashing Cohen But ░░░░░░░░ I think the only ░░░░░░░░ To make sense of ░░░░░░░░ strategy To the extent ░░░░░░░░ s a strategy Is ░░░░░░░░ it s meant to ░░░░░░░░ the President s team ░░░░░░░░ if you Don t ░░░░░░░░ me and he can ░░░░░░░░ Cohen before he s ░░░░░░░░ he can pardon him ░░░░░░░░ Any time If it ░░░░░░░░ don t pardon me ░░░░░░░░ ve Got the goods ░░░░░░░░ you and I m ░░░░░░░░ to make your life ░░░░░░░░ Difficult so I m ░░░░░░░░ to get Your attention ░░░░░░░░ and let you Know ░░░░░░░░ m very serious That ░░░░░░░░ the only way I ░░░░░░░░ make Sense of the ░░░░░░░░ that Doesn t seem ░░░░░░░░ make sense Otherwise Okay ░░░░░░░░ Laura do you want ░░░░░░░░ respond To that Because ░░░░░░░░ have another question For ░░░░░░░░ I can say certainly ░░░░░░░░ is Very inartful the ░░░░░░░░ it s Going down ░░░░░░░░ remember he s not ░░░░░░░░ to Gamble on that ░░░░░░░░ shoot of Whether the ░░░░░░░░ of the United States ░░░░░░░░ will bend to His ░░░░░░░░ for a pardon We ░░░░░░░░ the president doesn t ░░░░░░░░ the normal pardoning Process ░░░░░░░░ things Albeit Kim Kardashian ░░░░░░░░ has Been able to ░░░░░░░░ a reason To pardon ░░░░░░░░ I doubt Cohen or ░░░░░░░░ legal Counsel is trying ░░░░░░░░ bank on That effort ░░░░░░░░ think what s happening ░░░░░░░░ Realistically and it s ░░░░░░░░ Stretch to try to ░░░░░░░░ into the Mind of ░░░░░░░░ particular person But what ░░░░░░░░ s counting on Remember ░░░░░░░░ s not something That ░░░░░░░░ be a two way ░░░░░░░░ A prosecutor has to ░░░░░░░░ actually Interested in giving ░░░░░░░░ a plea Offer or ░░░░░░░░ deal You can t ░░░░░░░░ that Opportunity and if ░░░░░░░░ do try to Do ░░░░░░░░ it has to be ░░░░░░░░ It may very well ░░░░░░░░ that what Michael Cohen ░░░░░░░░ to offer is Not ░░░░░░░░ they would like to ░░░░░░░░ Remember it s not ░░░░░░░░ who Has an interest ░░░░░░░░ of yet in New ░░░░░░░░ he handed that over ░░░░░░░░ his audience of one ░░░░░░░░ s Going for is ░░░░░░░░ Mueller But who he ░░░░░░░░ to be speaking To ░░░░░░░░ the Southern District of ░░░░░░░░ York I just think ░░░░░░░░ Conversations are better had ░░░░░░░░ Private Of course We ░░░░░░░░ agree Can Michael Cohen ░░░░░░░░ sued or Stopped by ░░░░░░░░ president in any Way ░░░░░░░░ he s seen to ░░░░░░░░ breaking Some sort of ░░░░░░░░ client Privilege Renato No ░░░░░░░░ he did that if ░░░░░░░░ President wanted to do ░░░░░░░░ he Would be putting ░░░░░░░░ truth of All these ░░░░░░░░ at issue in That ░░░░░░░░ So if I was ░░░░░░░░ the President I would ░░░░░░░░ him Stay very far ░░░░░░░░ from that And we ░░░░░░░░ to remember Michael Cohen ░░░░░░░░ not been Charged with ░░░░░░░░ that s if He ░░░░░░░░ charged with anything Right ░░░░░░░░ it will play out ░░░░░░░░ we ve been that ░░░░░░░░ guys Have put forward ░░░░░░░░ Right And don also ░░░░░░░░ you Can t assert ░░░░░░░░ privilege now For some ░░░░░░░░ these cases Rudy Giuliani ░░░░░░░░ his team Especially on ░░░░░░░░ cash versus Check telephone ░░░░░░░░ That was recorded you ░░░░░░░░ do That in a ░░░░░░░░ party consent Jurisdiction they ░░░░░░░░ it He already preempted ░░░░░░░░ ability To do so ░░░░░░░░ is probably the Most ░░░░░░░░ strategy of All He ░░░░░░░░ foreclosed some of his ░░░░░░░░ avenues as the president ░░░░░░░░ the United States Don ░░░░░░░░ think I didn t ░░░░░░░░ that Run over by ░░░░░░░░ Force One thing You ░░░░░░░░ in the beginning There ░░░░░░░░ track marks now on ░░░░░░░░ Cohen Sources tell CNN ░░░░░░░░ Michael Cohen says Donald ░░░░░░░░ Knew in advance about ░░░░░░░░ Infamous Trump Tower meeting ░░░░░░░░ the Russians Max Boot ░░░░░░░░ there is already Evidence ░░░░░░░░ collusion I ll ask ░░░░░░░░ what he thinks now ░░░░░░░░ would have thought Who ░░░░░░░░ have guessed An energy ░░░░░░░░ helping cars emit less ░░░░░░░░ cars lighter It s ░░░░░░░░ good place to start ░░░░░░░░ oils for those hard ░░░░░░░░ parts Fuels that go ░░░░░░░░ so drivers pump less ░░░░░░░░ efficiency is what we ░░░░░░░░ best Energy lives here ░░░░░░░░ here is the breaking ░░░░░░░░ Tonight Sources telling CNN ░░░░░░░░ Michael Cohen claims then ░░░░░░░░ Trump knew in advance ░░░░░░░░ the June 2016 meeting ░░░░░░░░ Russians In Trump Tower ░░░░░░░░ he is Willing to ░░░░░░░░ that claim to Robert ░░░░░░░░ President Trump has denied ░░░░░░░░ Knowledge of that meeting ░░░░░░░░ So I want to ░░░░░░░░ in now CNN Global ░░░░░░░░ analyst Max Boot Senior ░░░░░░░░ at the council on ░░░░░░░░ relations and a Columnist ░░░░░░░░ The Washington Post Good ░░░░░░░░ sir.
>> Good evening, don.