RUSH TRANSCRIPT Well I ░░░░░░░░ with Rudy Giuliani On ░░░░░░░░ one on one thing ░░░░░░░░ should all see Mueller ░░░░░░░░ Report Because what we ░░░░░░░░ now is just The ░░░░░░░░ general s Presentation of ░░░░░░░░ report Which leaves many ░░░░░░░░ Quite frankly unanswered But ░░░░░░░░ Democrats on the Campaign ░░░░░░░░ likely won t be ░░░░░░░░ about Russia They ll ░░░░░░░░ talking about this Breaking ░░░░░░░░ Tonight the Trump Administration ░░░░░░░░ telling a federal appeals ░░░░░░░░ that the entire Affordable ░░░░░░░░ Act should be struck ░░░░░░░░ This is a major ░░░░░░░░ from The Justice Department ░░░░░░░░ Could impact millions of ░░░░░░░░ We ll have more ░░░░░░░░ that just a Little ░░░░░░░░ later on in the ░░░░░░░░ But let s discuss ░░░░░░░░ much of This with ░░░░░░░░ Kayyem Phillip Mudd and ░░░░░░░░ Mariotti Phil give me ░░░░░░░░ reaction to What you ░░░░░░░░ heard from the President ░░░░░░░░ attorneys I look at ░░░░░░░░ and I say I ░░░░░░░░ t understand why we ░░░░░░░░ the Bar like this ░░░░░░░░ There s a question ░░░░░░░░ law I don t ░░░░░░░░ that the special Counsel ░░░░░░░░ a question about the ░░░░░░░░ in the case that ░░░░░░░░ Robert Mueller I served ░░░░░░░░ 1 2 years with ░░░░░░░░ I suspect he looked ░░░░░░░░ the facts On obstruction ░░░░░░░░ said I could Determine ░░░░░░░░ or not to Bring ░░░░░░░░ charge I think instead ░░░░░░░░ said there s Bigger ░░░░░░░░ to play here in ░░░░░░░░ of who can bring ░░░░░░░░ charge Against the president ░░░░░░░░ think he s punting ░░░░░░░░ not Because of the ░░░░░░░░ but because Of the ░░░░░░░░ But the bigger question ░░░░░░░░ Should spend just a ░░░░░░░░ on is the White ░░░░░░░░ saying we Succeeded here ░░░░░░░░ mean we succeeded this ░░░░░░░░ a Victory when you ░░░░░░░░ to go to Fourth ░░░░░░░░ civics class and Say ░░░░░░░░ in America is a ░░░░░░░░ Saying I got a ░░░░░░░░ mom and I Didn ░░░░░░░░ get an F I ░░░░░░░░ your personal attorney Your ░░░░░░░░ Security adviser The guy ░░░░░░░░ led your campaign The ░░░░░░░░ in your campaign all ░░░░░░░░ lied on Air Force ░░░░░░░░ And we re supposed ░░░░░░░░ walk away Saying this ░░░░░░░░ a victory for America ░░░░░░░░ judgment How about occasionally ░░░░░░░░ say What do we ░░░░░░░░ a fourth grader That ░░░░░░░░ is what we want ░░░░░░░░ to Do in school ░░░░░░░░ lying s okay unless ░░░░░░░░ Passes a line to ░░░░░░░░ you can be Charged ░░░░░░░░ a violation of the ░░░░░░░░ I don t get ░░░░░░░░ don Renato When you ░░░░░░░░ look at the Attorney ░░░░░░░░ s letter it s ░░░░░░░░ to remember that this ░░░░░░░░ his interpretation of the ░░░░░░░░ report Not Mueller s ░░░░░░░░ issues does that raise ░░░░░░░░ You Well I think ░░░░░░░░ biggest Concern I have ░░░░░░░░ that he took It ░░░░░░░░ himself to reach his ░░░░░░░░ Conclusion about obstruction of ░░░░░░░░ Mueller spent almost two ░░░░░░░░ Looking at this He ░░░░░░░░ 500 witnesses Issued over ░░░░░░░░ 600 subpoenas and For ░░░░░░░░ reason he decided That ░░░░░░░░ was better for him ░░░░░░░░ To reach a conclusion ░░░░░░░░ that He wanted to ░░░░░░░░ that to the American ░░░░░░░░ It s very bizarre ░░░░░░░░ Barr in a Short ░░░░░░░░ of time without Looking ░░░░░░░░ the underlying Evidence reached ░░░░░░░░ conclusion It strikes me ░░░░░░░░ a major lack of ░░░░░░░░ And it suggests that ░░░░░░░░ he But they were ░░░░░░░░ about Three weeks before ░░░░░░░░ least Barr was and ░░░░░░░░ re saying at That ░░░░░░░░ White House and the ░░░░░░░░ didn t know about ░░░░░░░░ But that the Mueller ░░░░░░░░ Notified them that they ░░░░░░░░ t Be making any ░░░░░░░░ of decision On that ░░░░░░░░ On obstruction Yeah And ░░░░░░░░ when you read the ░░░░░░░░ don what Barr says ░░░░░░░░ That he talked to ░░░░░░░░ Officials at the Justice ░░░░░░░░ and he read the ░░░░░░░░ doesn t talk about ░░░░░░░░ to The underlying evidence ░░░░░░░░ At the testimony that ░░░░░░░░ given For example reading ░░░░░░░░ Underlying reports that the ░░░░░░░░ Generated You know to ░░░░░░░░ if you re Grappling ░░░░░░░░ a difficult issue Like ░░░░░░░░ you want to get ░░░░░░░░ The evidence And frankly ░░░░░░░░ know Barr Should have ░░░░░░░░ that as the Guy ░░░░░░░░ wrote that 19 page ░░░░░░░░ spaced memo expressing His ░░░░░░░░ on obstruction before He ░░░░░░░░ Attorney general no One ░░░░░░░░ accept his judgment on ░░░░░░░░ face about obstruction He ░░░░░░░░ have had the humility ░░░░░░░░ do what Robert Mueller ░░░░░░░░ Not willing to do ░░░░░░░░ is punt That to ░░░░░░░░ American people So Juliette ░░░░░░░░ it s a Four ░░░░░░░░ letter In this four ░░░░░░░░ letter Barr Uses very ░░░░░░░░ quotes from Robert Mueller ░░░░░░░░ How do you think ░░░░░░░░ letter Would have been ░░░░░░░░ if it Only used ░░░░░░░░ quotes from The report ░░░░░░░░ better I m sort ░░░░░░░░ surprised at how Politically ░░░░░░░░ I think in Some ░░░░░░░░ Barr has done this ░░░░░░░░ headline would have been ░░░░░░░░ the president did not ░░░░░░░░ with the Russians Whether ░░░░░░░░ got the whole report ░░░░░░░░ not And so now ░░░░░░░░ debate has Shifted from ░░░░░░░░ of that Seemingly good ░░░░░░░░ and I agree With ░░░░░░░░ the bar is really ░░░░░░░░ but the seemingly good ░░░░░░░░ to really a question ░░░░░░░░ Access to the report ░░░░░░░░ We if we got ░░░░░░░░ on Sunday Night I ░░░░░░░░ t think the Headline ░░░░░░░░ be very Different right ░░░░░░░░ m a little bit ░░░░░░░░ just Picking up on ░░░░░░░░ both of them Said ░░░░░░░░ we re getting really ░░░░░░░░ on the obstruction of ░░░░░░░░ decision by Barr We ░░░░░░░░ know significant Stuff coming ░░░░░░░░ this report That Barr ░░░░░░░░ admits that The Russian ░░░░░░░░ to or Not attempts ░░░░░░░░ influence in the Campaign ░░░░░░░░ aided Trump And I ░░░░░░░░ we should focus on ░░░░░░░░ piece I actually think ░░░░░░░░ obstruction Of justice debate ░░░░░░░░ keeping us From the ░░░░░░░░ substance of what Even ░░░░░░░░ Barr letter says which ░░░░░░░░ me may not be ░░░░░░░░ but Certainly is and ░░░░░░░░ m trying to Find ░░░░░░░░ word for it sort ░░░░░░░░ Unbecoming of a president ░░░░░░░░ His campaign Whether it ░░░░░░░░ impeachable is a Political ░░░░░░░░ So this Phil this ░░░░░░░░ what Barr wrote about ░░░░░░░░ of Justice He said ░░░░░░░░ determination was Made without ░░░░░░░░ to and is Not ░░░░░░░░ on the constitutional Considerations ░░░░░░░░ surround the Indictment and ░░░░░░░░ Prosecution of a sitting ░░░░░░░░ you know Barr is ░░░░░░░░ For himself and Rod ░░░░░░░░ In this letter and ░░░░░░░░ Mueller How significant is ░░░░░░░░ do you Think I ░░░░░░░░ it s hugely Significant ░░░░░░░░ ve got to anticipate ░░░░░░░░ keep Talking about the ░░░░░░░░ that Robert Mueller as ░░░░░░░░ public Servant eventually is ░░░░░░░░ to Go and speak ░░░░░░░░ own words Before the ░░░░░░░░ I suspect that will ░░░░░░░░ in an Open hearing ░░░░░░░░ served under Mueller for ░░░░░░░░ 1 2 Years He ░░░░░░░░ not going to punt ░░░░░░░░ If he s looking ░░░░░░░░ the facts He s ░░░░░░░░ to make a Determination ░░░░░░░░ the facts That s ░░░░░░░░ he s done in ░░░░░░░░ As a prosecutor I ░░░░░░░░ at this and when ░░░░░░░░ First saw it don ░░░░░░░░ first view Is director ░░░░░░░░ when I knew Him ░░░░░░░░ special counsel Mueller knew ░░░░░░░░ people would Immediately pick ░░░░░░░░ on the fact That ░░░░░░░░ chose not to make ░░░░░░░░ Decision on obstruction That ░░░░░░░░ that people would Start ░░░░░░░░ debate it and the ░░░░░░░░ would pick it up ░░░░░░░░ must have anticipated that ░░░░░░░░ did not anticipate that ░░░░░░░░ he couldn t make ░░░░░░░░ Decision based on the ░░░░░░░░ There s got to ░░░░░░░░ something else In terms ░░░░░░░░ questions about the Process ░░░░░░░░ and the Congress Has ░░░░░░░░ hear him speak Forget ░░░░░░░░ the document I want ░░░░░░░░ hear what he says ░░░░░░░░ this key line Renato ░░░░░░░░ From Mueller s report ░░░░░░░░ investigation did not Establish ░░░░░░░░ not establish That members ░░░░░░░░ the Trump campaign conspired ░░░░░░░░ Coordinated with the Russian ░░░░░░░░ in its election Interference ░░░░░░░░ But there s got ░░░░░░░░ be more on That ░░░░░░░░ What do you think ░░░░░░░░ is Leaving out here ░░░░░░░░ that s a good ░░░░░░░░ If you notice the ░░░░░░░░ letter Is bracketed So ░░░░░░░░ suggests that it s ░░░░░░░░ Second half of a ░░░░░░░░ It s bizarre that ░░░░░░░░ didn t Quote the ░░░░░░░░ sentence It s unclear ░░░░░░░░ he didn t But ░░░░░░░░ what he did with ░░░░░░░░ Rest of the letter ░░░░░░░░ might Wonder whether or ░░░░░░░░ there s Some qualifier ░░░░░░░░ like Although you know ░░░░░░░░ maybe Although there s ░░░░░░░░ Evidence of something or ░░░░░░░░ The investigation did not ░░░░░░░░ So you know I ░░░░░░░░ think that Barr instead ░░░░░░░░ looking at this As ░░░░░░░░ partisan a win or ░░░░░░░░ Republican Democrat thing really ░░░░░░░░ have been looking at ░░░░░░░░ Role in history here ░░░░░░░░ is arguably the most ░░░░░░░░ investigation in American history ░░░░░░░░ in My lifetime And ░░░░░░░░ Mr Barr to not ░░░░░░░░ lay It out there ░░░░░░░░ everyone I Think is ░░░░░░░░ speaks poorly for Him ░░░░░░░░ how he ll be ░░░░░░░░ In history So Juliette ░░░░░░░░ said you Didn t ░░░░░░░░ to you thought we ░░░░░░░░ focusing a lot on ░░░░░░░░ Obstruction thing But I ░░░░░░░░ just wondering what Does ░░░░░░░░ say to you Does ░░░░░░░░ mean that Mueller didn ░░░░░░░░ Have sufficient evidence Or ░░░░░░░░ because of the rule ░░░░░░░░ he clearly was defining ░░░░░░░░ under you that cannot ░░░░░░░░ a sitting president that ░░░░░░░░ obstruction of that Without ░░░░░░░░ underlying crime you Couldn ░░░░░░░░ this is Barr s ░░░░░░░░ or explanation You would ░░░░░░░░ go forward given That ░░░░░░░░ was 49 51 say ░░░░░░░░ the Obstruction of justice ░░░░░░░░ On their own In ░░░░░░░░ words standing alone He ░░░░░░░░ not going to do ░░░░░░░░ Obstruction of justice I ░░░░░░░░ t think it s ░░░░░░░░ we re Not doing ░░░░░░░░ but oh Mueller Punted ░░░░░░░░ decision I think Mueller ░░░░░░░░ said This is a ░░░░░░░░ call there s no ░░░░░░░░ crime that I was ░░░░░░░░ that I with a ░░░░░░░░ Specific mandate I was ░░░░░░░░ With that would justify ░░░░░░░░ second Prosecution for obstruction ░░░░░░░░ Justice And therefore that ░░░░░░░░ be the Determination for ░░░░░░░░ Department of Justice or ░░░░░░░░ house to Determine whether ░░░░░░░░ move Forward with this ░░░░░░░░ think it s I ░░░░░░░░ t think he Punted ░░░░░░░░ I think he actually ░░░░░░░░ without The underlying crime ░░░░░░░░ re not Going to ░░░░░░░░ forward on our Own ░░░░░░░░ I think what s ░░░░░░░░ Here and this is ░░░░░░░░ having to Do with ░░░░░░░░ release of the Report ░░░░░░░░ this stage even if ░░░░░░░░ Can argue that certain ░░░░░░░░ Will not be released ░░░░░░░░ we Are right now ░░░░░░░░ a country s Unsustainable ░░░░░░░░ Barr if he wants ░░░░░░░░ redeem Himself and there ░░░░░░░░ a question About whether ░░░░░░░░ was just trying To ░░░░░░░░ a summary whatever has ░░░░░░░░ to get that report ░░░░░░░░ you Know by the ░░░░░░░░ of this week This ░░░░░░░░ not sustainable as a ░░░░░░░░ And someone will start ░░░░░░░░ Release that report There ░░░░░░░░ no question in my ░░░░░░░░ At this stage Because ░░░░░░░░ cannot have a Democracy ░░░░░░░░ this where we Don ░░░░░░░░ see the underlying Accusations ░░░░░░░░ may fall short Of ░░░░░░░░ crime but are once ░░░░░░░░ Unbecoming of a president ░░░░░░░░ the United States and ░░░░░░░░ campaign Julia Phil Renato ░░░░░░░░ You very much I ░░░░░░░░ your time I want ░░░░░░░░ bring in now