RUSH TRANSCRIPT And hours ░░░░░░░░ Scott Peterson was in ░░░░░░░░ facing a judge on ░░░░░░░░ of failing to protect ░░░░░░░░ students during the mass ░░░░░░░░ in parkland last year ░░░░░░░░ want to bring in ░░░░░░░░ legal analyst Joey Jackson ░░░░░░░░ CNN law enforcement analyst ░░░░░░░░ galliano And also Mack ░░░░░░░░ He is the director ░░░░░░░░ operations for the national ░░░░░░░░ of school resource officers ░░░░░░░░ thank you so much ░░░░░░░░ being with me Joey ░░░░░░░░ know defense is coming ░░░░░░░░ hard here They are ░░░░░░░░ this a political stunt ░░░░░░░░ said in court today ░░░░░░░░ charges they shouldn t ░░░░░░░░ able to stand because ░░░░░░░░ they say isn t ░░░░░░░░ caregiver What do you ░░░░░░░░ of these arguments I ░░░░░░░░ of the arguments that ░░░░░░░░ re very effective Just ░░░░░░░░ up a minute this ░░░░░░░░ a tragic situation and ░░░░░░░░ obviously feel for there ░░░░░░░░ no words that could ░░░░░░░░ the parents of these ░░░░░░░░ anyone who was injured ░░░░░░░░ teacher staff anyone who ░░░░░░░░ killed that day or ░░░░░░░░ that your heart goes ░░░░░░░░ You don t know ░░░░░░░░ to say Perhaps we ░░░░░░░░ be talking about the ░░░░░░░░ of gun control and ░░░░░░░░ violence But on the ░░░░░░░░ issue of the law ░░░░░░░░ the facts are damning ░░░░░░░░ I think people perhaps ░░░░░░░░ yelling at the screen ░░░░░░░░ do you mean bury ░░░░░░░░ in jail let him ░░░░░░░░ there forever what he ░░░░░░░░ was sad sickening I ░░░░░░░░ with all that in ░░░░░░░░ of what he did ░░░░░░░░ wrong an abdication of ░░░░░░░░ responsibility I get all ░░░░░░░░ that Let s talk ░░░░░░░░ law In 2005 the ░░░░░░░░ Court determined Scalia being ░░░░░░░░ person with the impetus ░░░░░░░░ the decision that said ░░░░░░░░ essentially law enforcement does ░░░░░░░░ have a constitutional duty ░░░░░░░░ obligation to otherwise provide ░░░░░░░░ the protection of people ░░░░░░░░ So what happens is ░░░░░░░░ in essence what that ░░░░░░░░ opinion is saying is ░░░░░░░░ law enforcement yes you ░░░░░░░░ viewed with a certain ░░░░░░░░ et cetera but that ░░░░░░░░ s no constitutional duty ░░░░░░░░ protect people That s ░░░░░░░░ one Therefore that s ░░░░░░░░ constitutional argument The second ░░░░░░░░ quickly is this that ░░░░░░░░ statute in terms of ░░░░░░░░ neglect is written for ░░░░░░░░ Law enforcement people are ░░░░░░░░ care providers And as ░░░░░░░░ they cannot be held ░░░░░░░░ And so what I ░░░░░░░░ ultimately will happen is ░░░░░░░░ will go before a ░░░░░░░░ and he ll be ░░░░░░░░ but what I think ░░░░░░░░ really be settled it ░░░░░░░░ be settled by an ░░░░░░░░ court that makes the ░░░░░░░░ assessment of whether or ░░░░░░░░ legally you can do ░░░░░░░░ So finally just to ░░░░░░░░ clear I m extraordinarily ░░░░░░░░ to the facts in ░░░░░░░░ case and the arguments ░░░░░░░░ occurred from a legal ░░░░░░░░ The human side of ░░░░░░░░ says bury him alive ░░░░░░░░ legal part of me ░░░░░░░░ legally you can t ░░░░░░░░ do it and if ░░░░░░░░ s convicted it s ░░░░░░░░ back James they have ░░░░░░░░ legal obligation to protect ░░░░░░░░ That s frightening You ░░░░░░░░ trust in law enforcement ░░░░░░░░ you don t know ░░░░░░░░ sure they have to ░░░░░░░░ I want to play ░░░░░░░░ you sound from one ░░░░░░░░ the parents They are ░░░░░░░░ very adamant that the ░░░░░░░░ knew what was going ░░░░░░░░ in the building and ░░░░░░░░ nothing Listen It s ░░░░░░░░ clear he knew what ░░░░░░░░ happening It s very ░░░░░░░░ to me knew where ░░░░░░░░ shots were coming from ░░░░░░░░ the building And it ░░░░░░░░ a very clear he ░░░░░░░░ a defensive position behind ░░░░░░░░ cement pillar and stayed ░░░░░░░░ for 38 minutes even ░░░░░░░░ other law enforcement responded ░░░░░░░░ went in the building ░░░░░░░░ needs to go to ░░░░░░░░ and he needs to ░░░░░░░░ a lifetime in prison ░░░░░░░░ not going in that ░░░░░░░░ and taking down the ░░░░░░░░ Joey what do you ░░░░░░░░ I m sorry James ░░░░░░░░ do you think in ░░░░░░░░ video in the surveillance ░░░░░░░░ led police to bring ░░░░░░░░ charges Well Lynn first ░░░░░░░░ all mark this day ░░░░░░░░ because it is seldom ░░░░░░░░ I disagree with my ░░░░░░░░ and friend Joey Jackson ░░░░░░░░ laid out perfectly what ░░░░░░░░ law is here and ░░░░░░░░ s what I m ░░░░░░░░ to argue I watched ░░░░░░░░ video I ve seen ░░░░░░░░ of it It is ░░░░░░░░ numbingly stomach as a ░░░░░░░░ law enforcement officer to ░░░░░░░░ a peace officer someone ░░░░░░░░ is sworn to protect ░░░░░░░░ serve and defend and ░░░░░░░░ placed at a school ░░░░░░░░ is where we have ░░░░░░░░ children studying in a ░░░░░░░░ safe place and literally ░░░░░░░░ outside for three quarters ░░░░░░░░ an hour while rifle ░░░░░░░░ were ricocheting around inside ░░░░░░░░ very building It is ░░░░░░░░ The argument is look ░░░░░░░░ have precedent on this ░░░░░░░░ Supreme Court as Joey ░░░░░░░░ out has ruled against ░░░░░░░░ law enforcement officers accountable ░░░░░░░░ lack of valor I ░░░░░░░░ going to argue something ░░░░░░░░ If you can prove ░░░░░░░░ his inaction not his ░░░░░░░░ but his inactions led ░░░░░░░░ additional deaths there when ░░░░░░░░ job his profession as ░░░░░░░░ sworn peace officer was ░░░░░░░░ enter that building and ░░░░░░░░ that gunman if you ░░░░░░░░ prove that lives were ░░░░░░░░ during that time when ░░░░░░░░ did not intercede I ░░░░░░░░ he should go to ░░░░░░░░ for the rest of ░░░░░░░░ life Joey I ll ░░░░░░░░ your reaction in a ░░░░░░░░ Mack I want to ░░░░░░░░ to you What s ░░░░░░░░ protocol What are you ░░░░░░░░ you have to go ░░░░░░░░ Well with the national ░░░░░░░░ of school resource officers ░░░░░░░░ do teach that it ░░░░░░░░ direct to threat When ░░░░░░░░ detect danger we go ░░░░░░░░ to threat Pre Columbine ░░░░░░░░ surrounded held things inside ░░░░░░░░ we found out after ░░░░░░░░ that that is not ░░░░░░░░ way to do it ░░░░░░░░ direct to threat was ░░░░░░░░ It changed over the ░░░░░░░░ but we have to ░░░░░░░░ in we have to ░░░░░░░░ this because we know ░░░░░░░░ every second we wait ░░░░░░░░ are losing their lives ░░░░░░░░ it is the parents ░░░░░░░░ are sitting at home ░░░░░░░░ desperately watching that video ░░░░░░░░ he could have gone ░░░░░░░░ I want to play ░░░░░░░░ sound of some of ░░░░░░░░ parents and their reaction ░░░░░░░░ We miss our children ░░░░░░░░ day and there s ░░░░░░░░ that s going to ░░░░░░░░ them back And we ░░░░░░░░ that But just hurts ░░░░░░░░ much and I know ░░░░░░░░ whatever accountability comes our ░░░░░░░░ doesn t bring back ░░░░░░░░ re pleased to see ░░░░░░░░ accountable for this tragedy ░░░░░░░░ took the life of ░░░░░░░░ daughter and 16 other ░░░░░░░░ people Mack what is ░░░░░░░░ like for you and ░░░░░░░░ school resource officers to ░░░░░░░░ there at a school ░░░░░░░░ day knowing the lives ░░░░░░░░ these parents children are ░░░░░░░░ your hands Well it ░░░░░░░░ a lot of responsibility ░░░░░░░░ father of three myself ░░░░░░░░ want the person inside ░░░░░░░░ school that I think ░░░░░░░░ I would have been ░░░░░░░░ a situation like that ░░░░░░░░ ve asked my resource ░░░░░░░░ when I was a ░░░░░░░░ would you want yourself ░░░░░░░░ be the resource officer ░░░░░░░░ the school where your ░░░░░░░░ go to school We ░░░░░░░░ to consider that our ░░░░░░░░ We have to take ░░░░░░░░ in that Work with ░░░░░░░░ community and the school ░░░░░░░░ and all the teachers ░░░░░░░░ secure that school to ░░░░░░░░ sure it s as ░░░░░░░░ as possible We can ░░░░░░░░ guarantee total safeness but ░░░░░░░░ those parents brings to ░░░░░░░░ why we do what ░░░░░░░░ do and we try ░░░░░░░░ education and teach school ░░░░░░░░ officers about every state ░░░░░░░░ the United States how ░░░░░░░░ keep schools safe as ░░░░░░░░ as possible We know ░░░░░░░░ it s not 100 ░░░░░░░░ we have to do ░░░░░░░░ better and we have ░░░░░░░░ continue to learn and ░░░░░░░░ on it and don ░░░░░░░░ let things like this ░░░░░░░░ again As we know ░░░░░░░░ many times you re ░░░░░░░░ your life on the ░░░░░░░░ if you do go ░░░░░░░░ We are acutely oi ░░░░░░░░ of that Joey your ░░░░░░░░ to what James said ░░░░░░░░ of what the Supreme ░░░░░░░░ says it s the ░░░░░░░░ If they can prove ░░░░░░░░ they might be successful ░░░░░░░░ you agree I think ░░░░░░░░ s an outstanding argument ░░░░░░░░ will have a lot ░░░░░░░░ support perhaps amongst judges ░░░░░░░░ everyone who looks at ░░░░░░░░ I mean we re ░░░░░░░░ We re looking at ░░░░░░░░ video there He s ░░░░░░░░ People like James galliano ░░░░░░░░ have served this country ░░░░░░░░ distinction he would have ░░░░░░░░ for his fellow mankind ░░░░░░░░ this officer didn t ░░░░░░░░ his mentality I do ░░░░░░░░ disagree with the passion ░░░░░░░░ James galliano speaks to ░░░░░░░░ don t disagree with ░░░░░░░░ notion that we hire ░░░░░░░░ to do their job ░░░░░░░░ don t disagree with ░░░░░░░░ notion that people I ░░░░░░░░ sure more died as ░░░░░░░░ result of what he ░░░░░░░░ What I m speaking ░░░░░░░░ is the bigger legal ░░░░░░░░ and I think the ░░░░░░░░ legal picture says that ░░░░░░░░ has been resolved and ░░░░░░░░ Constitution suggests that officers ░░░░░░░░ t have that responsibility ░░░░░░░░ one Number two they ░░░░░░░░ not caretakers and think ░░░░░░░░ the precedent it will ░░░░░░░░ if we prosecute officers ░░░░░░░░ the country for failing ░░░░░░░░ act with valor in ░░░░░░░░ of adversity As you ░░░░░░░░ out Joey very well ░░░░░░░░ upsetting that would be ░░░░░░░░ families because a lot ░░░░░░░░ this comes down to ░░░░░░░░ anguish watching this video ░░░░░░░░ their child s life ░░░░░░░░ have been saved had ░░░░░░░░ man acted Joey James ░░░░░░░░ thank you for Thank ░░░░░░░░ Lynn.