All right here now ░░░░░░░░ what promises to be ░░░░░░░░ pretty fiery debate pastor ░░░░░░░░ activist bishop talbert swan ░░░░░░░░ Dan bond jano hosted ░░░░░░░░ damn bone jana podcast ░░░░░░░░ I was looking at ░░░░░░░░ last night couldn t ░░░░░░░░ and I came across ░░░░░░░░ tweets we quoted one ░░░░░░░░ them in the angle ░░░░░░░░ I really appreciate first ░░░░░░░░ all even we disagree ░░░░░░░░ some issues I really ░░░░░░░░ your being here tonight ░░░░░░░░ share some thoughts and ░░░░░░░░ even get somewhere so ░░░░░░░░ you for coming the ░░░░░░░░ video evidence that we ░░░░░░░░ now seeing when we ░░░░░░░░ all of the evidence ░░░░░░░░ just a snippet does ░░░░░░░░ bishop that these boys ░░░░░░░░ not start this confrontation ░░░░░░░░ you still see them ░░░░░░░░ believe as the villains ░░░░░░░░ this story tell us ░░░░░░░░ well when you look ░░░░░░░░ the video it s ░░░░░░░░ these young men were ░░░░░░░░ by the hebrew israelites ░░░░░░░░ s no doubt about ░░░░░░░░ and there s no ░░░░░░░░ for the behavior that ░░░░░░░░ men displayed in terms ░░░░░░░░ how they came at ░░░░░░░░ but you cannot deny ░░░░░░░░ your own eyes see ░░░░░░░░ you see these young ░░░░░░░░ mocking jeering ridiculing the ░░░░░░░░ American they can t ░░░░░░░░ what you see on ░░░░░░░░ other videos when you ░░░░░░░░ them accosting and yelling ░░░░░░░░ women and and saying ░░░░░░░░ like it s not ░░░░░░░░ if you enjoy it ░░░░░░░░ is where we have ░░░░░░░░ agree on just the ░░░░░░░░ otherwise it s not ░░░░░░░░ to be a great ░░░░░░░░ again just facts that ░░░░░░░░ all I m interested ░░░░░░░░ the fact is that ░░░░░░░░ was out there that ░░░░░░░░ who made the comment ░░░░░░░░ rape is not a ░░░░░░░░ Catholic high school student ░░░░░░░░ s not part of ░░░░░░░░ group none of those ░░░░░░░░ were either African American ░░░░░░░░ they weren t doing ░░░░░░░░ bishop I m just ░░░░░░░░ you they weren t ░░░░░░░░ that their 15 year ░░░░░░░░ models who were standing ░░░░░░░░ were he was standing ░░░░░░░░ they will mock him ░░░░░░░░ they would threatened he ░░░░░░░░ standing there no they ░░░░░░░░ t they were not ░░░░░░░░ that and if you ░░░░░░░░ at the whole team ░░░░░░░░ you can actually I ░░░░░░░░ seen the whole video ░░░░░░░░ you re so covington ░░░░░░░░ is definitely that student ░░░░░░░░ actually a member of ░░░░░░░░ Catholic Dan bungee know ░░░░░░░░ got to get you ░░░░░░░░ here and I m ░░░░░░░░ glad the bishop came ░░░░░░░░ but we have to ░░░░░░░░ these facts straight it ░░░░░░░░ very important for an ░░░░░░░░ conversation just like you ░░░░░░░░ to get the facts ░░░░░░░░ on other issues like ░░░░░░░░ Martin and I agree ░░░░░░░░ you on that bishop ░░░░░░░░ the way we got ░░░░░░░░ get those facts straight ░░░░░░░░ got to get the ░░░░░░░░ we know where someone ░░░░░░░░ someone did not die ░░░░░░░░ where kids have been ░░░░░░░░ badly threatened Dan mangino ░░░░░░░░ these boys standing there ░░░░░░░░ they trigger this behavior ░░░░░░░░ the part of this ░░░░░░░░ that we re learning ░░░░░░░░ lot more about tonight ░░░░░░░░ the way and the ░░░░░░░░ hebrew israelites did they ░░░░░░░░ them with these mega ░░░░░░░░ you know Laura would ░░░░░░░░ respect your other guests ░░░░░░░░ have no idea what ░░░░░░░░ s talking about I ░░░░░░░░ a monitor in my ░░░░░░░░ I mean we re ░░░░░░░░ watching the same it ░░░░░░░░ like we live in ░░░░░░░░ post fact bizarro world ░░░░░░░░ you have a kid ░░░░░░░░ there in a maggot ░░░░░░░░ with a political expression ░░░░░░░░ it motionless with it ░░░░░░░░ a with the smile ░░░░░░░░ his face while say ░░░░░░░░ adult confronts the kid ░░░░░░░░ yet I don t ░░░░░░░░ what tape the bishop ░░░░░░░░ watching what did these ░░░░░░░░ do wrong and then ░░░░░░░░ to throw in this ░░░░░░░░ you know fact that ░░░░░░░░ m using the dreaded ░░░░░░░░ quotes because it said ░░░░░░░░ s an anti fact ░░░░░░░░ non fact that someone ░░░░░░░░ this about rape which ░░░░░░░░ did but they were ░░░░░░░░ part of that group ░░░░░░░░ s clearly either an ░░░░░░░░ to distract from the ░░░░░░░░ of a point which ░░░░░░░░ don t believe the ░░░░░░░░ has or to distract ░░░░░░░░ the video on the ░░░░░░░░ that we can all ░░░░░░░░ these were a bunch ░░░░░░░░ kids waiting well yes ░░░░░░░░ if you born activists ░░░░░░░░ them what video where ░░░░░░░░ want to pretend if ░░░░░░░░ was watching the same ░░░░░░░░ you were watching and ░░░░░░░░ you want to pretend ░░░░░░░░ the few moments where ░░░░░░░░ Sandman was standing in ░░░░░░░░ of Mr Phillips he ░░░░░░░░ going to be all ░░░░░░░░ the video then go ░░░░░░░░ ahead but a lot ░░░░░░░░ to the video than ░░░░░░░░ that one point and ░░░░░░░░ sit here and tell ░░░░░░░░ that these young men ░░░░░░░░ not ridiculing that they ░░░░░░░░ not cheering that they ░░░░░░░░ not shy mocking I ░░░░░░░░ bishop you re a ░░░░░░░░ of the cloth and ░░░░░░░░ know you don t ░░░░░░░░ but Kate you don ░░░░░░░░ advocate violence and you ░░░░░░░░ t add in and ░░░░░░░░ agree I would imagine ░░░░░░░░ nonviolent standing there even ░░░░░░░░ a piece of clothing ░░░░░░░░ people find objectionable is ░░░░░░░░ grounds for them threatening ░░░░░░░░ kill them to burn ░░░░░░░░ to destroy their lives ░░░░░░░░ you and I you ░░░░░░░░ I completely agree you ░░░░░░░░ I completely agree that ░░░░░░░░ s no excuse of ░░░░░░░░ threatening to kill or ░░░░░░░░ burn or to harm ░░░░░░░░ matter of fact I ░░░░░░░░ been getting death threats ░░░░░░░░ phone calls from people ░░░░░░░░ the other side because ░░░░░░░░ my tweets like I ░░░░░░░░ condemned that type of ░░░░░░░░ but I also condemned ░░░░░░░░ type of behavior that ░░░░░░░░ saw from those young ░░░░░░░░ on that day and ░░░░░░░░ they were not standing ░░░░░░░░ are you and I ░░░░░░░░ in the same video ░░░░░░░░ is it young men ░░░░░░░░ Saturday we re not ░░░░░░░░ Nick sandman was not ░░░░░░░░ by himself there was ░░░░░░░░ entire group of young ░░░░░░░░ they were mocking they ░░░░░░░░ we don t hear ░░░░░░░░ no well it wasn ░░░░░░░░ it wasn t phillips ░░░░░░░░ can t do what ░░░░░░░░ cannot do is blame ░░░░░░░░ their behavior or what ░░░░░░░░ should be called incest ░░░░░░░░ and crackers and swear ░░░░░░░░ and not be able ░░░░░░░░ and not responded when ░░░░░░░░ do respond they re ░░░░░░░░ ones in examining and ░░░░░░░░ little kids weren t ░░░░░░░░ of this girl but ░░░░░░░░ guess I m all ░░░░░░░░ at the beginning question ░░░░░░░░ is the mag a ░░░░░░░░ racist well at the ░░░░░░░░ I condemn the behavior ░░░░░░░░ the hebrew israelite so ░░░░░░░░ s not pretend you ░░░░░░░░ guys is the maggot ░░░░░░░░ it win it win ░░░░░░░░ when it comes to ░░░░░░░░ maggot it s a ░░░░░░░░ of clothing that represents ░░░░░░░░ Trump everything that comes ░░░░░░░░ with Donald Trump Donald ░░░░░░░░ what is so it ░░░░░░░░ an attempted racist is ░░░░░░░░ unrepentant race what the ░░░░░░░░ hat to many is ░░░░░░░░ representative of a klan ░░░░░░░░ or various other symbols ░░░░░░░░ racism absolutely is what ░░░░░░░░ going on here is ░░░░░░░░ real if did he ░░░░░░░░ say that on a ░░░░░░░░ television bishop absolutely said ░░░░░░░░ m not willing to ░░░░░░░░ to the man of ░░░░░░░░ line to you anymore ░░░░░░░░ you just said one ░░░░░░░░ the dumbest combo it ░░░░░░░░ doesn t matter what ░░░░░░░░ refer to me as ░░░░░░░░ don t define this ░░░░░░░░ I own a firm ░░░░░░░░ in seven years of ░░░░░░░░ cable news that make ░░░░░░░░ great again by the ░░░░░░░░ a slurring is my ░░░░░░░░ hon stella is racist ░░░░░░░░ you serious Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ might hold on I ░░░░░░░░ t interrupt you so ░░░░░░░░ Trump who gives you ░░░░░░░░ lot more of your ░░░░░░░░ has fought for school ░░░░░░░░ has black unemployment at ░░░░░░░░ lowest in modern American ░░░░░░░░ we ve seen Donald ░░░░░░░░ if he s a ░░░░░░░░ he s the worst ░░░░░░░░ we feel just a ░░░░░░░░ and you know come ░░░░░░░░ use a crow Trump ░░░░░░░░ m embarrassed I don ░░░░░░░░ try you should go ░░░░░░░░ African nation this grace ░░░░░░░░ nation rapist black athletes ░░░░░░░░ bitches has not happened ░░░░░░░░ bishop I have a ░░░░░░░░ is the criminal justice ░░░░░░░░ legislation that has passed ░░░░░░░░ law which President Obama ░░░░░░░░ to do I think ░░░░░░░░ bush talked about which ░░░░░░░░ rights leaders for years ░░░░░░░░ been trying to get ░░░░░░░░ to you know to ░░░░░░░░ he actually did it ░░░░░░░░ that count well you ░░░░░░░░ you it absolutely counts ░░░░░░░░ and and the entire ░░░░░░░░ of van Jones and ░░░░░░░░ right we have Jones ░░░░░░░░ only on that pass ░░░░░░░░ was that that that ░░░░░░░░ piece of legislation will ░░░░░░░░ benefits to African Americans ░░░░░░░░ people across the so ░░░░░░░░ don t do that ░░░░░░░░ would a racist no ░░░░░░░░ you know Laura because ░░░░░░░░ got a piece of ░░░░░░░░ passed does not mean ░░░░░░░░ we ignore a long ░░░░░░░░ year history and and ░░░░░░░░ I can t believe ░░░░░░░░ that you all are ░░░░░░░░ me from the channel ░░░░░░░░ who one of your ░░░░░░░░ said when trayvon Martin ░░░░░░░░ killed that if you ░░░░░░░░ t want to be ░░░░░░░░ as a thug you ░░░░░░░░ t wear a hoodie ░░░░░░░░ you all who said ░░░░░░░░ black young men who ░░░░░░░░ hoodies should have a ░░░░░░░░ reception to tell me ░░░░░░░░ a mag ahead if ░░░░░░░░ bishop in a certain ░░░░░░░░ it s absolutely hypocritical ░░░░░░░░ I have to say ░░░░░░░░ think I was putting ░░░░░░░░ your comment about the ░░░░░░░░ I think you re ░░░░░░░░ a really good point ░░░░░░░░ profiling people based on ░░░░░░░░ they wear I think ░░░░░░░░ s an excellent point ░░░░░░░░ shouldn t profile someone ░░░░░░░░ to wear a hoodie ░░░░░░░░ him wear a darn ░░░░░░░░ someone wants to wear ░░░░░░░░ hilary button or a ░░░░░░░░ button or a bernie ░░░░░░░░ or a good good ░░░░░░░░ them it s their ░░░░░░░░ expression I don t ░░░░░░░░ them on the clothes ░░░░░░░░ wear you shouldn t ░░░░░░░░ if I ve ever ░░░░░░░░ that I m wrong ░░░░░░░░ I think we have ░░░░░░░░ apply that standard across ░░░░░░░░ board and I actually ░░░░░░░░ it leaves leon there ░░░░░░░░ rezidentura I think who ░░░░░░░░ actually work with President ░░░░░░░░ on a lot of ░░░░░░░░ I really I m ░░░░░░░░ saying that to try ░░░░░░░░ be cute here I ░░░░░░░░ think if you and ░░░░░░░░ geno and Trump got ░░░░░░░░ in a room I ░░░░░░░░ you guys could do ░░░░░░░░ really good things together ░░░░░░░░ really do this conversation ░░░░░░░░ what s racist well ░░░░░░░░ about solutions let s ░░░░░░░░ each other get this ░░░░░░░░ on the right track ░░░░░░░░ think you could actually ░░░░░░░░ it I really do ░░░░░░░░ think you got a ░░░░░░░░ of passion got a ░░░░░░░░ of supporters from past ░░░░░░░░ long a lot of ░░░░░░░░ men and women are ░░░░░░░░ right now because of ░░░░░░░░ Trump and are supporting ░░░░░░░░ kids and there are ░░░░░░░░ lot of black men ░░░░░░░░ women who are working ░░░░░░░░ Trump came into office ░░░░░░░░ s not providing that ░░░░░░░░ t drop them 16 ░░░░░░░░ sent down 27 8 ░░░░░░░░ Obama so when you ░░░░░░░░ to give him credit ░░░░░░░░ what someone else did ░░░░░░░░ s what s absolutely ░░░░░░░░ right give it right ░░░░░░░░ think in the end ░░░░░░░░ were high under Barack 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░░░░░░░░ do you talk to ░░░░░░░░ who claims when you ░░░░░░░░ a maggot hat on ░░░░░░░░ you re the worst ░░░░░░░░ on the planet which ░░░░░░░░ be a racist words ░░░░░░░░ my words in my ░░░░░░░░ I m well able ░░░░░░░░ articulate for myself I ░░░░░░░░ well able to detect ░░░░░░░░ myself and I didn ░░░░░░░░ say that you said ░░░░░░░░ but let s not ░░░░░░░░ here and pretend let ░░░░░░░░ not sit here and ░░░░░░░░ that things have meanings ░░░░░░░░ symbols don t have ░░░░░░░░ and the mega hat ░░░░░░░░ a meaning it s ░░░░░░░░ sign that is a ░░░░░░░░ re out of time ░░░░░░░░ I could say they ░░░░░░░░ right hundreds of thousands ░░░░░░░░ Americans who have those ░░░░░░░░ and I think it ░░░░░░░░ really dangerous for any ░░░░░░░░ us to judge them ░░░░░░░░ individuals based on the ░░░░░░░░ that they voted for ░░░░░░░░ Trump because they just ░░░░░░░░ he had better ideas ░░░░░░░░ that they re not ░░░░░░░░ people I mean they ░░░░░░░░ always bad people everything ░░░░░░░░ old enough to vote ░░░░░░░░ right there are a ░░░░░░░░ of bad people in ░░░░░░░░ group I get that ░░░░░░░░ just think we shouldn ░░░░░░░░ profile people based on ░░░░░░░░ clothes they wear I ░░░░░░░░ t do it and ░░░░░░░░ don t think anyone ░░░░░░░░ do it I think ░░░░░░░░ s bad and I ░░░░░░░░ it s toxic but ░░░░░░░░ really we might get ░░░░░░░░ eventually but I really ░░░░░░░░ both of you joining ░░░░░░░░ thank you both I ░░░░░░░░ talk too much in ░░░░░░░░ segment but that s ░░░░░░░░ I want