Chris Wallace Notes His Own Panel on DNC’s Fox Ban Is Loaded with Fox/Murdoch People

Tom PEREZ CHAIRMAN Democratic ░░░░░░░░ Committee I do not ░░░░░░░░ the confidence that we ░░░░░░░░ to take such an ░░░░░░░░ part of the nomination ░░░░░░░░ these debates and and ░░░░░░░░ them to folks who ░░░░░░░░ the top levels are ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump before they ░░░░░░░░ anything END VIDEO CLIP ░░░░░░░░ Well that s DNC ░░░░░░░░ Tom Perez making it ░░░░░░░░ Fox News is out ░░░░░░░░ from hosting any of ░░░░░░░░ 12 Democratic primary debates ░░░░░░░░ the next year And ░░░░░░░░ re back now with ░░░░░░░░ panel Well as I ░░░░░░░░ preparing for this panel ░░░░░░░░ I realize you re ░░░░░░░░ only one here who ░░░░░░░░ no ties either to ░░░░░░░░ News or to the ░░░░░░░░ s so I m ░░░░░░░░ to let you start ░░░░░░░░ SWAN NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER ░░░░░░░░ Rupert s Australian though ░░░░░░░░ Wallace Yes it s ░░░░░░░░ you re both Australian ░░░░░░░░ SWAN Yes sir Wallace ░░░░░░░░ here s the question ░░░░░░░░ do you think of ░░░░░░░░ DNC move both as ░░░░░░░░ politics and on the ░░░░░░░░ And I I seriously ░░░░░░░░ what you think Don ░░░░░░░░ worry about hurting our ░░░░░░░░ SWAN Sure Well I ░░░░░░░░ t surprised by it ░░░░░░░░ showed to me that ░░░░░░░░ I mean I expected ░░░░░░░░ he might do something ░░░░░░░░ this Wallace He Tom ░░░░░░░░ SWAN Tom Perez the ░░░░░░░░ chairman We ve seen ░░░░░░░░ the 2016 election the ░░░░░░░░ activist and the primary ░░░░░░░░ It s not just ░░░░░░░░ they ve rail against ░░░░░░░░ ve rail against The ░░░░░░░░ York Times for publishing ░░░░░░░░ Hillary e mails They ░░░░░░░░ you know I see ░░░░░░░░ of my competitors at ░░░░░░░░ New York Times getting ░░░░░░░░ for Donald Trump this ░░░░░░░░ We saw the backlash ░░░░░░░░ CNN hired Sarah Iska ░░░░░░░░ ph from the Justice ░░░░░░░░ They ve now changed ░░░░░░░░ role So the decision ░░░░░░░░ t surprise me What ░░░░░░░░ thought was disingenuous was ░░░░░░░░ explanation He said you ░░░░░░░░ we wanted to see ░░░░░░░░ we could expand the ░░░░░░░░ know we want to ░░░░░░░░ out to all voters ░░░░░░░░ then he said but ░░░░░░░░ know this New Yorker ░░░░░░░░ came out that changed ░░░░░░░░ The idea that it ░░░░░░░░ a secret that there ░░░░░░░░ certain anchors on your ░░░░░░░░ Sean Hannity would be ░░░░░░░░ that I name that ░░░░░░░░ very very close to ░░░░░░░░ president and that you ░░░░░░░░ say you know he ░░░░░░░░ on stage at a ░░░░░░░░ you could say he ░░░░░░░░ an extension the administration ░░░░░░░░ was not changed there ░░░░░░░░ no material facts in ░░░░░░░░ New Yorker story that ░░░░░░░░ anything we already knew ░░░░░░░░ Sean Hannity s not ░░░░░░░░ the debate So to ░░░░░░░░ it was just a ░░░░░░░░ decision that he made ░░░░░░░░ satisfy his activists Wallace ░░░░░░░░ asked you for questions ░░░░░░░░ the panel and on ░░░░░░░░ DNC decision to exclude ░░░░░░░░ from any of the ░░░░░░░░ we got this on ░░░░░░░░ from Royce Van Blaricome ░░░░░░░░ message should this sent ░░░░░░░░ the public at large ░░░░░░░░ the number one leading ░░░░░░░░ network by far for ░░░░░░░░ some time is denied ░░░░░░░░ debate by an entire ░░░░░░░░ party because that party ░░░░░░░░ it cannot be treated ░░░░░░░░ by that network What ░░░░░░░░ that say and speak ░░░░░░░░ Juan a pretty good ░░░░░░░░ What s your answer ░░░░░░░░ WILLIAMS POLITICAL ANALYST Well ░░░░░░░░ think that the what ░░░░░░░░ have to deal with ░░░░░░░░ we re living in ░░░░░░░░ time when the people ░░░░░░░░ are Trump supporters tend ░░░░░░░░ watch Fox people who ░░░░░░░░ antagonist towards the president ░░░░░░░░ to watch CNN or ░░░░░░░░ The audiences are divided ░░░░░░░░ think the base the ░░░░░░░░ base wants nothing to ░░░░░░░░ with Fox because of ░░░░░░░░ strident pro Trump voices ░░░░░░░░ the prime time hour ░░░░░░░░ you know I m ░░░░░░░░ to answer this very ░░░░░░░░ Chris and I think ░░░░░░░░ could as well I ░░░░░░░░ a Democrat and I ░░░░░░░░ at Fox for 23 ░░░░░░░░ I think nobody tells ░░░░░░░░ what to say here ░░░░░░░░ think it s very ░░░░░░░░ that Democrats penetrate the ░░░░░░░░ if you will on ░░░░░░░░ right and speak truth ░░░░░░░░ well as it can ░░░░░░░░ spoken I think the ░░░░░░░░ to pick up on ░░░░░░░░ s point would be ░░░░░░░░ by real journalists I ░░░░░░░░ not you re my ░░░░░░░░ but I m not ░░░░░░░░ this because you re ░░░░░░░░ friend I think you ░░░░░░░░ a real journalist I ░░░░░░░░ Martha MacCallum Dana Perino ░░░░░░░░ think I m a ░░░░░░░░ journalist Bret Baier Those ░░░░░░░░ real people who I ░░░░░░░░ would conduct a fair ░░░░░░░░ Newt Gingrich who s ░░░░░░░░ here with me Newt ░░░░░░░░ and I have been ░░░░░░░░ a Fox debate and ░░░░░░░░ has attacked me and ░░░░░░░░ ve gone at Newt ░░░░░░░░ think that it s ░░░░░░░░ can do this But ░░░░░░░░ in mind Fox is ░░░░░░░░ most watched cable channel ░░░░░░░░ we re going to ░░░░░░░░ a lot of independent ░░░░░░░░ I call Reagan Democrats ░░░░░░░░ the rust belt who ░░░░░░░░ think might respond to ░░░░░░░░ Democratic message And I ░░░░░░░░ it s going to ░░░░░░░░ very important Wallace Let ░░░░░░░░ let me pick up ░░░░░░░░ that with you Speaker ░░░░░░░░ As a matter of ░░░░░░░░ politics is did Tom ░░░░░░░░ the DNC chair make ░░░░░░░░ smart move if only ░░░░░░░░ he is bowing to ░░░░░░░░ will of a large ░░░░░░░░ perhaps the most vocal ░░░░░░░░ of his base NEWT ░░░░░░░░ FORMER House Speaker Let ░░░░░░░░ just point out even ░░░░░░░░ I used to work ░░░░░░░░ Fox before I ran ░░░░░░░░ got hammered by both ░░░░░░░░ guys in debates So ░░░░░░░░ think I Wallace Do ░░░░░░░░ really want to go ░░░░░░░░ to Ames Iowa and ░░░░░░░░ you went after me ░░░░░░░░ No no no No ░░░░░░░░ I m just saying ░░░░░░░░ can I can attest ░░░░░░░░ you guys will be ░░░░░░░░ and will go after ░░░░░░░░ weakness in either party ░░░░░░░░ but the bigger issue ░░░░░░░░ is here s the ░░░░░░░░ one cable news channel ░░░░░░░░ its reach is bigger ░░░░░░░░ the others And if ░░░░░░░░ want to be competitive ░░░░░░░░ s take some examples ░░░░░░░░ Michigan Ohio Pennsylvania and ░░░░░░░░ don t want to ░░░░░░░░ on Fox you re ░░░░░░░░ giving you can only ░░░░░░░░ so far with with ░░░░░░░░ blue states on the ░░░░░░░░ on MSNBC and CNN ░░░░░░░░ think it s a ░░░░░░░░ mistake to say we ░░░░░░░░ now going to shrink ░░░░░░░░ a party because we ░░░░░░░░ afraid to be on ░░░░░░░░ And that s what ░░░░░░░░ said SHELBY HOLLIDAY THE ░░░░░░░░ Street Journal Well I ░░░░░░░░ All right let me ░░░░░░░░ m going to switch ░░░░░░░░ to another subject HOLLIDAY ░░░░░░░░ right Wallace I sort ░░░░░░░░ like enough about us ░░░░░░░░ now what about me?