RUSH TRANSCRIPT Joining me ░░░░░░░░ former undersecretary of state ░░░░░░░░ political affairs ambassador Nicholas ░░░░░░░░ Former chief of staff ░░░░░░░░ then Pompeo Mike chenowith ░░░░░░░░ Bobby gauche Now that ░░░░░░░░ s put together a ░░░░░░░░ for the State Department ░░░░░░░░ do you see him ░░░░░░░░ the morale issue It ░░░░░░░░ a real issue and ░░░░░░░░ ve got to get ░░░░░░░░ mojo back I can ░░░░░░░░ tell you how he ░░░░░░░░ fix the issues but ░░░░░░░░ can tell you how ░░░░░░░░ ll approach the problem ░░░░░░░░ s the way he ░░░░░░░░ all problems He digs ░░░░░░░░ the facts makes sure ░░░░░░░░ has full information about ░░░░░░░░ the situation is He ░░░░░░░░ confer with trusted lieutenants ░░░░░░░░ get their input on ░░░░░░░░ situation There will be ░░░░░░░░ strong give and take ░░░░░░░░ that conversation He will ░░░░░░░░ to see what the ░░░░░░░░ is from different perspectives ░░░░░░░░ he ll make a ░░░░░░░░ about how to go ░░░░░░░░ and improve things I ░░░░░░░░ the fact the reputation ░░░░░░░░ brings over from the ░░░░░░░░ is he left that ░░░░░░░░ with better morale than ░░░░░░░░ found it is a ░░░░░░░░ Head Start toward correct ░░░░░░░░ problems that exist at ░░░░░░░░ State Department Ambassador we ░░░░░░░░ what the State Department ░░░░░░░░ wants to hear They ░░░░░░░░ to get excited But ░░░░░░░░ does Pompeo need to ░░░░░░░░ to rn things up ░░░░░░░░ think Mike Pompeo is ░░░░░░░░ to a solid start ░░░░░░░░ was a big message ░░░░░░░░ you showed He committed ░░░░░░░░ rebuilding the department honoring ░░░░░░░░ nonpartisan work of the ░░░░░░░░ and civil service These ░░░░░░░░ career people not political ░░░░░░░░ fill the vacancies you ░░░░░░░░ in the leadup the ░░░░░░░░ vacies we ve had ░░░░░░░░ the last year and ░░░░░░░░ s shown he has ░░░░░░░░ relationship with President Trump ░░░░░░░░ trust You need that ░░░░░░░░ modern secretaries of state ░░░░░░░░ t be powerful or ░░░░░░░░ if they don t ░░░░░░░░ the ear and confidence ░░░░░░░░ the president I was ░░░░░░░░ by yesterday Director Pompeo ░░░░░░░░ been calling around to ░░░░░░░░ diplomats to currently serving ░░░░░░░░ He s talked to ░░░░░░░░ living secretary of state ░░░░░░░░ s done his homework ░░░░░░░░ think the rank and ░░░░░░░░ of the State Department ░░░░░░░░ looking forward to a ░░░░░░░░ of the power and ░░░░░░░░ of what they do ░░░░░░░░ if it s for ░░░░░░░░ reaching out to every ░░░░░░░░ living secretary of state ░░░░░░░░ a very big deal ░░░░░░░░ given what they came ░░░░░░░░ with Rex Tillerson Bobby ░░░░░░░░ s talk about the ░░░░░░░░ nuclear deal What are ░░░░░░░░ consequences Mike Pompeo will ░░░░░░░░ to face if President ░░░░░░░░ chooses not to recertify ░░░░░░░░ It will fall to ░░░░░░░░ to reassure the rest ░░░░░░░░ the world that this ░░░░░░░░ not the United States ░░░░░░░░ away from the Middle ░░░░░░░░ altogether That the U ░░░░░░░░ Still wants to work ░░░░░░░░ its allies All of ░░░░░░░░ other signitaries of the ░░░░░░░░ Britain China Germany France ░░░░░░░░ these countries have said ░░░░░░░░ want to keep the ░░░░░░░░ He s going to ░░░░░░░░ to go around putting ░░░░░░░░ all the fires It ░░░░░░░░ a pretty big flaming ░░░░░░░░ of you know what ░░░░░░░░ have to deal with ░░░░░░░░ his first month as ░░░░░░░░ Department But you know ░░░░░░░░ Pompeo comes from a ░░░░░░░░ background and that gives ░░░░░░░░ a certain advantage He ░░░░░░░░ used to dealing with ░░░░░░░░ flaming piles of you ░░░░░░░░ what That s what ░░░░░░░░ do Before Mike Pompeo ░░░░░░░░ to deal with that ░░░░░░░░ I want to share ░░░░░░░░ he said just a ░░░░░░░░ weeks ago Mark take ░░░░░░░░ listen Do you have ░░░░░░░░ evidence to dispute the ░░░░░░░░ assessment that Iran is ░░░░░░░░ full compliance with the ░░░░░░░░ Senator with the information ░░░░░░░░ ve been provided I ░░░░░░░░ no I ve seen ░░░░░░░░ evidence that they are ░░░░░░░░ in compliance today So ░░░░░░░░ Mike Pompeo says a ░░░░░░░░ weeks ago no evidence ░░░░░░░░ they re not in ░░░░░░░░ should he not be ░░░░░░░░ his time right now ░░░░░░░░ the president to stay ░░░░░░░░ J and if he ░░░░░░░░ t won t it ░░░░░░░░ tough We ll have ░░░░░░░░ on our face Stephanie ░░░░░░░░ don t hold myself ░░░░░░░░ to be a foreign ░░░░░░░░ expert I can t ░░░░░░░░ you exactly what his ░░░░░░░░ will be but I ░░░░░░░░ tell you that his ░░░░░░░░ conversations that he has ░░░░░░░░ the president on this ░░░░░░░░ will be Frank That ░░░░░░░░ will be intellectually honest ░░░░░░░░ the president about what ░░░░░░░░ knows and he ll ░░░░░░░░ his best to bring ░░░░░░░░ information to the president ░░░░░░░░ everybody else on the ░░░░░░░░ making team and you ░░░░░░░░ be assured that whatever ░░░░░░░░ is made it will ░░░░░░░░ made based on the ░░░░░░░░ available information and after ░░░░░░░░ consideration of all the ░░░░░░░░ factors Ambassador I think ░░░░░░░░ to guys like Gary ░░░░░░░░ who put their hands ░░░░░░░░ and left When they ░░░░░░░░ President Trump honest valuable ░░░░░░░░ time and again and ░░░░░░░░ decided to go in ░░░░░░░░ different direction If Mike ░░░░░░░░ presents the president with ░░░░░░░░ the correct information he ░░░░░░░░ about Iran being currently ░░░░░░░░ in the deal and ░░░░░░░░ Trump opts to go ░░░░░░░░ a different direction will ░░░░░░░░ be difficult for him ░░░░░░░░ save face I think ░░░░░░░░ s just the beginning ░░░░░░░░ his time in office ░░░░░░░░ it s his earliest ░░░░░░░░ biggest test This is ░░░░░░░░ to be a critical ░░░░░░░░ It looks like President ░░░░░░░░ is halfway out the ░░░░░░░░ If you look what ░░░░░░░░ macron said in leaving ░░░░░░░░ last week It doesn ░░░░░░░░ look like he and ░░░░░░░░ were able to convince ░░░░░░░░ Trump to stay in ░░░░░░░░ nuclear deal This is ░░░░░░░░ to be a big ░░░░░░░░ for the United States ░░░░░░░░ countries that will be ░░░░░░░░ disaffected from us will ░░░░░░░░ Britain France and Germany ░░░░░░░░ well as Russia and ░░░░░░░░ They re all iagreement ░░░░░░░░ s hard to see ░░░░░░░░ rationale for leaving The ░░░░░░░░ have applied the deal ░░░░░░░░ their policy They ve ░░░░░░░░ up to what they ░░░░░░░░ to do in 2015 ░░░░░░░░ it doesn t make ░░░░░░░░ in terms of our ░░░░░░░░ to pull out because ░░░░░░░░ just rewards Iran It ░░░░░░░░ Iran to escape further ░░░░░░░░ And it allows the ░░░░░░░░ to go ahead if ░░░░░░░░ in turn leave the ░░░░░░░░ with their nuclear efforts ░░░░░░░░ the plutonium and uranium ░░░░░░░░ basis It s hard ░░░░░░░░ see how the United ░░░░░░░░ profits We re better ░░░░░░░░ putting pressure on the ░░░░░░░░ What Netanyahu announced two ░░░░░░░░ ago is important The ░░░░░░░░ have been lying for ░░░░░░░░ long time about what ░░░░░░░░ re doing We ought ░░░░░░░░ use that to put ░░░░░░░░ pressure on Iran We ░░░░░░░░ do it inside the ░░░░░░░░ We won t have ░░░░░░░░ credibility outside If the ░░░░░░░░ walks away from the ░░░░░░░░ deal it might have ░░░░░░░░ negative impact on his ░░░░░░░░ to convince Kim Jong ░░░░░░░░ and North Korea to ░░░░░░░░ to a similar deal ░░░░░░░░ forward because Kim Jong ░░░░░░░░ will worry that the ░░░░░░░░ of the United States ░░░░░░░░ t good anymore It ░░░░░░░░ a great point to ░░░░░░░░ that Netanyahu may be ░░░░░░░░ on Iran s honesty ░░░░░░░░ the only way you ░░░░░░░░ going to get them ░░░░░░░░ improve and play ball ░░░░░░░░ if you re in ░░░░░░░░ deal The ambassador was ░░░░░░░░ talking North Korea I ░░░░░░░░ to share what Mike ░░░░░░░░ had to say about ░░░░░░░░ Korea just last summer ░░░░░░░░ would be a great ░░░░░░░░ to denuclearize the peninsula ░░░░░░░░ get the weapons off ░░░░░░░░ it The thing that ░░░░░░░░ most dangerous is the ░░░░░░░░ who holds the control ░░░░░░░░ them That s what ░░░░░░░░ said last summer Bobby ░░░░░░░░ now just a few ░░░░░░░░ ago he met with ░░░░░░░░ Jong UN It s ░░░░░░░░ widely praised Can we ░░░░░░░░ from regime change to ░░░░░░░░ If the president has ░░░░░░░░ then he has to ░░░░░░░░ he has to pull ░░░░░░░░ the president s agenda ░░░░░░░░ his personal views are ░░░░░░░░ the subject There again ░░░░░░░░ having been a politician ░░░░░░░░ Politicians now how to ░░░░░░░░ from east to east ░░░░░░░░ That s the nature ░░░░░░░░ their trade This is ░░░░░░░░ unusual for a state ░░░░░░░░ of state particularly one ░░░░░░░░ comes from a political ░░░░░░░░ to have to confront ░░░░░░░░ opposite of what they ░░░░░░░░ said before So yeah ░░░░░░░░ think he has gone ░░░░░░░░ now himself since those ░░░░░░░░ last month Pompeo has ░░░░░░░░ to North Korea The ░░░░░░░░ himself is not calling ░░░░░░░░ regime change And so ░░░░░░░░ is going to have ░░░░░░░░ live with that I ░░░░░░░░ to talk about the ░░░░░░░░ are unconfirmed reports but ░░░░░░░░ are reports that those ░░░░░░░░ Americans who are being ░░░░░░░░ in North Korea have ░░░░░░░░ been transferred from labor ░░░░░░░░ Then we talked a ░░░░░░░░ deal about what it ░░░░░░░░ look like what this ░░░░░░░░ verifiable irreversible mechanism might ░░░░░░░░ like While none of ░░░░░░░░ can say we like ░░░░░░░░ Otto warn beer was ░░░░░░░░ to the United States ░░░░░░░░ you think what we ░░░░░░░░ heard from Mike Pompeo ░░░░░░░░ this administration s diplomacy ░░░░░░░░ I think the administration ░░░░░░░░ made a couple of ░░░░░░░░ steps on North Korea ░░░░░░░░ ve been able to ░░░░░░░░ the Chinese to exact ░░░░░░░░ sanctions pressure on north ░░░░░░░░ President Trump has stayed ░░░░░░░░ to moon jae in ░░░░░░░░ president of South Korea ░░░░░░░░ well as Abe of ░░░░░░░░ and I think Mike ░░░░░░░░ is ready to talk ░░░░░░░░ the detained Americans It ░░░░░░░░ to me that these ░░░░░░░░ have to be released ░░░░░░░░ be released by north ░░░░░░░░ before President Trump and ░░░░░░░░ Kim Jong UN meet ░░░░░░░░ in Asia in the ░░░░░░░░ 30 or 40 days ░░░░░░░░ that Pompeo trip was ░░░░░░░░ important trip It made ░░░░░░░░ to connect with Kim ░░░░░░░░ UN And it s ░░░░░░░░ remarkable fact Stephanie that ░░░░░░░░ American official of any ░░░░░░░░ had ever met with ░░░░░░░░ Jong UN until Mike ░░░░░░░░ did So that was ░░░░░░░░ good use of diplomacy ░░░░░░░░ the secretary of state ░░░░░░░░ at that time Mike ░░░░░░░░