RUSH TRANSCRIPT now We ░░░░░░░░ live in Oakland California ░░░░░░░░ she kicks off her ░░░░░░░░ campaign But first the ░░░░░░░░ federal employees preparing to ░░░░░░░░ back to work tomorrow ░░░░░░░░ gone an entire month ░░░░░░░░ a paycheck today the ░░░░░░░░ House announcing the timetable ░░░░░░░░ when that back pay ░░░░░░░░ arrive How an employee ░░░░░░░░ paid or which payroll ░░░░░░░░ covers their agency will ░░░░░░░░ how long it takes ░░░░░░░░ of them could be ░░░░░░░░ this some may be ░░░░░░░░ this week But we ░░░░░░░░ by the end of ░░░░░░░░ week all of the ░░░░░░░░ pay will be made ░░░░░░░░ and of course the ░░░░░░░░ payroll will got out ░░░░░░░░ time Okay So now ░░░░░░░░ lawmakers are on the ░░░░░░░░ trying to strike a ░░░░░░░░ security deal before the ░░░░░░░░ February 15th funding deadline ░░░░░░░░ new NBC News Wall ░░░░░░░░ Journal polls show 50 ░░░░░░░░ Americans blame President Trump ░░░░░░░░ the shutdown 37 blame ░░░░░░░░ and joining me now ░░░░░░░░ NBC s geoff Bennett ░░░░░░░░ the White House and ░░░░░░░░ Hill and Chris Lu ░░░░░░░░ assistant to president rack ░░░░░░░░ now a senior fellow ░░░░░░░░ the University of Virginia ░░░░░░░░ Miller center and Eliza ░░░░░░░░ USA Today politics reporter ░░░░░░░░ right now any action ░░░░░░░░ at the White House ░░░░░░░░ far as negotiating with ░░░░░░░░ reporter No kendis We ░░░░░░░░ t expect to see ░░░░░░░░ president at all today ░░░░░░░░ saw the acting chief ░░░░░░░░ staff Mick Mulvaney make ░░░░░░░░ Sunday shows He was ░░░░░░░░ the president s message ░░░░░░░░ if the presidede doesn ░░░░░░░░ get what he wantntat ░░░░░░░░ end of this next ░░░░░░░░ week period he might ░░░░░░░░ shut down the government ░░░░░░░░ or B declare a ░░░░░░░░ emergency I have to ░░░░░░░░ you though based on ░░░░░░░░ own reporting neither of ░░░░░░░░ two outcomes is all ░░░░░░░░ likely y One we ░░░░░░░░ that Republicans on the ░░░░░░░░ some of them we ░░░░░░░░ from today Susan Collins ░░░░░░░░ Rubio said that shutting ░░░░░░░░ the government is ineffective ░░░░░░░░ hurtful Two declaring a ░░░░░░░░ emergency F the president ░░░░░░░░ that was a viable ░░░░░░░░ he probably would have ░░░░░░░░ elected to do that ░░░░░░░░ inside the White House ░░░░░░░░ are people who say ░░░░░░░░ it would not hold ░░░░░░░░ in court such a ░░░░░░░░ and two if he ░░░░░░░░ to declare a national ░░░░░░░░ he would still have ░░░░░░░░ pay to build the ░░░░░░░░ wall and the way ░░░░░░░░ do it is to ░░░░░░░░ pulling funding from other ░░░░░░░░ of the Goth military ░░░░░░░░ relief and we heard ░░░░░░░░ those constituencies when the ░░░░░░░░ House floated this idea ░░░░░░░░ saying they didn t ░░░░░░░░ the president to do ░░░░░░░░ we ll see how ░░░░░░░░ next few weeks of ░░░░░░░░ shape up In the ░░░░░░░░ you have the one ░░░░░░░░ furloughed workers are getting ░░░░░░░░ may be back on ░░░░░░░░ job fairly soon Eliza ░░░░░░░░ a lot of people ░░░░░░░░ still worried about what ░░░░░░░░ situation will be in ░░░░░░░░ days When can they ░░░░░░░░ to receive those checks ░░░░░░░░ we ve been talking ░░░░░░░░ as well Right well ░░░░░░░░ re expected to receive ░░░░░░░░ checks over the next ░░░░░░░░ but having the president ░░░░░░░░ that in three weeks ░░░░░░░░ he ll shut down ░░░░░░░░ government again or declare ░░░░░░░░ national emergency isn t ░░░░░░░░ most doesn t make ░░░░░░░░ for confident going back ░░░░░░░░ work right These people ░░░░░░░░ went over a month ░░░░░░░░ paycheck cycles without receiving ░░░░░░░░ hit their credit people ░░░░░░░░ worried how to get ░░░░░░░░ They will get the ░░░░░░░░ this week and they ░░░░░░░░ get back pay which ░░░░░░░░ very important But it ░░░░░░░░ t feel good I ░░░░░░░░ sure going back to ░░░░░░░░ rk and knowing that ░░░░░░░░ could all happen again ░░░░░░░░ three weeks And in ░░░░░░░░ meantime to Mike there ░░░░░░░░ Capitol Hill we have ░░░░░░░░ 17th congressional folks who ░░░░░░░░ be spending the next ░░░░░░░░ days or so trying ░░░░░░░░ come up with a ░░░░░░░░ Give us a sense ░░░░░░░░ who they are Right ░░░░░░░░ are what we call ░░░░░░░░ very traditional powerful committee ░░░░░░░░ they lost some power ░░░░░░░░ the last few years ░░░░░░░░ it gravitates into the ░░░░░░░░ office the majority minority ░░░░░░░░ or the speaker s ░░░░░░░░ they re in charge ░░░░░░░░ the 12 annual spending ░░░░░░░░ that again very lately ░░░░░░░░ not get passed So ░░░░░░░░ end up with these ░░░░░░░░ that are trying to ░░░░░░░░ by Congress and sent ░░░░░░░░ the president and hopefully ░░░░░░░░ obviously that s not ░░░░░░░░ happened in December but ░░░░░░░░ bottom line here is ░░░░░░░░ these folks are in ░░░░░░░░ of getting this spending ░░░░░░░░ together the ultimate signoff ░░░░░░░░ not come from there ░░░░░░░░ matter how senior they ░░░░░░░░ it will come from ░░░░░░░░ leadership it is very ░░░░░░░░ to imagine the outctce ░░░░░░░░ Democrats go for dollar ░░░░░░░░ for the president s ░░░░░░░░ after all they ve ░░░░░░░░ through the bruising political ░░░░░░░░ sifting through the record ░░░░░░░░ days shutdown Democrats stared ░░░░░░░░ the president come out ░░░░░░░░ top by holding their ░░░░░░░░ and not giving a ░░░░░░░░ for what Speaker Pelosi ░░░░░░░░ immoral wall I hate ░░░░░░░░ be cynical if the ░░░░░░░░ were to declare that ░░░░░░░░ emergency he would do ░░░░░░░░ knowing that it would ░░░░░░░░ be challenged in court ░░░░░░░░ a very political perspective ░░░░░░░░ that s the easiest ░░░░░░░░ political off ramp for ░░░░░░░░ involved Kendis You mentioned ░░░░░░░░ this past Friday you ░░░░░░░░ it s likely that ░░░░░░░░ president s move will ░░░░░░░░ a national emergency Yeah ░░░░░░░░ know I just think ░░░░░░░░ given at the end ░░░░░░░░ this three weeks first ░░░░░░░░ all the negotiation is ░░░░░░░░ going to go to ░░░░░░░░ last minute that s ░░░░░░░░ Congress does Secondly I ░░░░░░░░ t see an agreement ░░░░░░░░ Republicans agree to go ░░░░░░░░ with another shutdown nobody ░░░░░░░░ a stomach for that ░░░░░░░░ reason they went wobbly ░░░░░░░░ Friday to begin with ░░░░░░░░ because they had all ░░░░░░░░ internal acrimony the Thursday ░░░░░░░░ where Republican senators stood ░░░░░░░░ and challenged not only ░░░░░░░░ majority leader Mitch McConnell ░░░░░░░░ vice president Mike Pence ░░░░░░░░ lot voting with Democrats ░░░░░░░░ the big bill on ░░░░░░░░ that was the watershed ░░░░░░░░ dam just broke there ░░░░░░░░ mix metaphors and Republicans ░░░░░░░░ for an agreement Something ░░░░░░░░ get them out of ░░░░░░░░ political mess that they ░░░░░░░░ faced at the end ░░░░░░░░ that 35 days kendis ░░░░░░░░ right of course we ░░░░░░░░ the NBC News Wall ░░░░░░░░ Journal poll today and ░░░░░░░░ were some interesting nuggets ░░░░░░░░ out of it this ░░░░░░░░ of course talking about ░░░░░░░░ president s handling of ░░░░░░░░ showdown right now Of ░░░░░░░░ the shutdown The vast ░░░░░░░░ of Americans found that ░░░░░░░░ disapprove of the president ░░░░░░░░ handling of it 54 ░░░░░░░░ of the president s ░░░░░░░░ 43 approve Chris you ░░░░░░░░ that the president weakened ░░░░░░░░ hand in future budget ░░░░░░░░ Well that s exactly ░░░░░░░░ It s hard to ░░░░░░░░ a worse political outcome ░░░░░░░░ the president here he ░░░░░░░░ federal employees hostage for ░░░░░░░░ days in the end ░░░░░░░░ had to release the ░░░░░░░░ his ransom wasn t ░░░░░░░░ during that time he ░░░░░░░░ to build a case ░░░░░░░░ the border wall it ░░░░░░░░ very clear not only ░░░░░░░░ your poll but from ░░░░░░░░ polls that the American ░░░░░░░░ aren t buying what ░░░░░░░░ s selling and as ░░░░░░░░ other people on this ░░░░░░░░ have said we re ░░░░░░░░ to be in this ░░░░░░░░ same situation in about ░░░░░░░░ days there will be ░░░░░░░░ bipartisan proposal I believe ░░░░░░░░ will have more money ░░░░░░░░ border security it will ░░░░░░░░ 21st century technology the ░░░░░░░░ is whether the president ░░░░░░░░ go alonong with that ░░░░░░░░ he s proven to ░░░░░░░░ a very didiicult negotiator ░░░░░░░░ I think you know ░░░░░░░░ is still up in ░░░░░░░░ air as to what ░░░░░░░░ but it s hard ░░░░░░░░ imagine that he will ░░░░░░░░ this compromise and hard ░░░░░░░░ see that he will ░░░░░░░░ national emergency given the ░░░░░░░░ raised by his Republican ░░░░░░░░ So federal workers should ░░░░░░░░ happy they re going ░░░░░░░░ to work but they ░░░░░░░░ t take great comfort ░░░░░░░░ how long that will ░░░░░░░░ That s a troubling ░░░░░░░░ you consider this political ░░░░░░░░ Chris I do consider ░░░░░░░░ political malpractice Nobody wins ░░░░░░░░ shutdown go back and ░░░░░░░░ through history this isn ░░░░░░░░ good for presidents not ░░░░░░░░ for Congress and so ░░░░░░░░ should have known this ░░░░░░░░ was warned about this ░░░░░░░░ very very smart people ░░░░░░░░ the fact that he ░░░░░░░░ go back into this ░░░░░░░░ pretty incredible The numbers ░░░░░░░░ have been against the ░░░░░░░░ all along We did ░░░░░░░░ once again from the ░░░░░░░░ Wall Street Journal poll ░░░░░░░░ opinions of Americans when ░░░░░░░░ comes to the border ░░░░░░░░ the vast majority say ░░░░░░░░ they oppose building a ░░░░░░░░ wall there on the ░░░░░░░░ border Onon about 45 ░░░░░░░░ of this Eliza you ░░░░░░░░ that this whole thing ░░░░░░░░ whole way this shutdown ░░░░░░░░ out proved that Pelosi ░░░░░░░░ gotten the support of ░░░░░░░░ insurgent wing of the ░░░░░░░░ Right and I think ░░░░░░░░ is really key I ░░░░░░░░ the last two years ░░░░░░░░ Republicans the hard right ░░░░░░░░ who broke with their ░░░░░░░░ constantly They were constantly ░░░░░░░░ to pull legislation to ░░░░░░░░ right They opposed legislation ░░░░░░░░ really made it hard ░░░░░░░░ Republican leadership And they ░░░░░░░░ hoping that the far ░░░░░░░░ would do the same ░░░░░░░░ that is not the ░░░░░░░░ Pelosi kept her entire ░░░░░░░░ in line they only ░░░░░░░░ a dozen or less ░░░░░░░░ break on spending bills ░░░░░░░░ and that s a ░░░░░░░░ big deal I mean ░░░░░░░░ saw Alexandria Cortez of ░░░░░░░░ the Republican s favorite ░░░░░░░░ to point out as ░░░░░░░░ far left of the ░░░░░░░░ on Friday saying no ░░░░░░░░ should underestimate Pelosi That ░░░░░░░░ huge I think that ░░░░░░░░ because Democrats saw polling ░░░░░░░░ Americans do not support ░░░░░░░░ wall the way the ░░░░░░░░ has said and so ░░░░░░░░ were able to stick ░░░░░░░░ on this and also ░░░░░░░░ is very experienced She ░░░░░░░░ been doing this a ░░░░░░░░ long time She s ░░░░░░░░ with the Republican presididt ░░░░░░░░ president George W Bush ░░░░░░░░ she knows how to ░░░░░░░░ toe toto toe where ░░░░░░░░ President Trump was an ░░░░░░░░ when he came into ░░░░░░░░ Yeah but this is ░░░░░░░░ different president indeed geoff ░░░░░░░░ you speaking of different ░░░░░░░░ we haven t seen ░░░░░░░░ president publicly in nearly ░░░░░░░░ week How unusual is ░░░░░░░░ reporter It s fairly ░░░░░░░░ The president has been ░░░░░░░░ fairly low profile here ░░░░░░░░ when the during the ░░░░░░░░ of the shutdown but ░░░░░░░░ have been no scheduled ░░░░░░░░ on his public calendar ░░░░░░░░ weekend so we ve ░░░░░░░░ been hearing from him ░░░░░░░░ on Twitter And he ░░░░░░░░ been saying a lot ░░░░░░░░ Twitter our thanks to ░░░░░░░░ Bennett and