RUSH TRANSCRIPT The chaos ░░░░░░░░ been unleashed President Trump ░░░░░░░░ roller coaster instincts plunge ░░░░░░░░ into chaos Pete Yeah ░░░░░░░░ But just two years ░░░░░░░░ many in the media ░░░░░░░░ the idea of too ░░░░░░░░ generals Here with a ░░░░░░░░ check is our foreign ░░░░░░░░ panel Rebecca Heinrich is ░░░░░░░░ senior fellow at the ░░░░░░░░ noon lick lip hold ░░░░░░░░ the deputy commanding general ░░░░░░░░ U S Forces in ░░░░░░░░ and the author of ░░░░░░░░ novel Dark winter A ░░░░░░░░ of experts here We ░░░░░░░░ going to try to ░░░░░░░░ get to as much ░░░░░░░░ we can Rebecca let ░░░░░░░░ start with you This ░░░░░░░░ what do you take ░░░░░░░░ it Look You know ░░░░░░░░ Trump was a bit ░░░░░░░░ Even if you agree ░░░░░░░░ some of the policy ░░░░░░░░ the president made he ░░░░░░░░ them the wrong way ░░░░░░░░ can still make decisions ░░░░░░░░ withdrawing some troops from ░░░░░░░░ you can talk about ░░░░░░░░ you want in terms ░░░░░░░░ timeline in Syria but ░░░░░░░░ cannot do it suddenly ░░░░░░░░ way he did it ░░░░░░░░ you re leaving our ░░░░░░░░ and our partners in ░░░░░░░░ lurch And you re ░░░░░░░░ sending shock waves across ░░░░░░░░ allies who are paying ░░░░░░░░ to this so I ░░░░░░░░ it was a mistake ░░░░░░░░ sky is not falling ░░░░░░░░ I do wish the ░░░░░░░░ would listen to his ░░░░░░░░ advisers and find a ░░░░░░░░ way to do this ░░░░░░░░ a way that makes ░░░░░░░░ to you are a ░░░░░░░░ partners Pete Kirk we ░░░░░░░░ get to the Afghanistan ░░░░░░░░ the idea there are ░░░░░░░░ many generals Now when ░░░░░░░░ generals leave they were ░░░░░░░░ ones that the the ░░░░░░░░ on the administration What ░░░░░░░░ really want is a ░░░░░░░░ where they feel he ░░░░░░░░ reached out gone through ░░░░░░░░ consultation process he has ░░░░░░░░ the analysis he understands ░░░░░░░░ implications not only of ░░░░░░░░ decision but the second ░░░░░░░░ third order effects of ░░░░░░░░ so when it is ░░░░░░░░ they feel it is ░░░░░░░░ thought out In this ░░░░░░░░ the president made the ░░░░░░░░ and the American people ░░░░░░░░ t have a degree ░░░░░░░░ comfort The guardrails aren ░░░░░░░░ dawn the sky is ░░░░░░░░ falling things are not ░░░░░░░░ to come into chaos ░░░░░░░░ nevertheless I think it ░░░░░░░░ create a little bit ░░░░░░░░ churn here in Washington ░░░░░░░░ across the nation because ░░░░░░░░ the decree of discomfort ░░░░░░░░ General did the president ░░░░░░░░ set consultation satisfied elect ░░░░░░░░ they wanted to disrupt ░░░░░░░░ status quo that they ░░░░░░░░ t think was working ░░░░░░░░ s exactly right piece ░░░░░░░░ you have a got ░░░░░░░░ a very successful businessman ░░░░░░░░ president he seeks a ░░░░░░░░ solution to problems And ░░░░░░░░ ve been not great ░░░░░░░░ transition operations from our ░░░░░░░░ operations over the last ░░░░░░░░ years And so what ░░░░░░░░ president is looking to ░░░░░░░░ he s already worked ░░░░░░░░ deal behind the scenes ░░░░░░░░ Saudi Arabia Jordan and ░░░░░░░░ that has formed an ░░░░░░░░ and now what we ░░░░░░░░ do and I m ░░░░░░░░ this is part of ░░░░░░░░ transition planning is bring ░░░░░░░░ private military contractors to ░░░░░░░░ up some of the ░░░░░░░░ issues that are in ░░░░░░░░ Syria I ve talked ░░░░░░░░ my sources on the ░░░░░░░░ there There s oil ░░░░░░░░ is laying on the ░░░░░░░░ There are private investors ░░░░░░░░ want to come in ░░░░░░░░ build a pipeline What ░░░░░░░░ could do is secure ░░░░░░░░ and find a way ░░░░░░░░ you know actually reimburse ░░░░░░░░ for some of these ░░░░░░░░ that we re doing ░░░░░░░░ And you create that ░░░░░░░░ you get the private ░░░░░░░░ in there and then ░░░░░░░░ of a sudden you ░░░░░░░░ able to ship oil ░░░░░░░░ Turkey you re able ░░░░░░░░ the Turks off the ░░░░░░░░ back and you ve ░░░░░░░░ Israel Jordan and Saudi ░░░░░░░░ checking the Russian and ░░░░░░░░ influence and I think ░░░░░░░░ president s thought through ░░░░░░░░ of this and there ░░░░░░░░ no need for him ░░░░░░░░ announce that ahead of ░░░░░░░░ And I think it ░░░░░░░░ fine I don t ░░░░░░░░ as Rebecca said that ░░░░░░░░ was chaotic I think ░░░░░░░░ president is disrupting the ░░░░░░░░ security status quo here ░░░░░░░░ D C which I ░░░░░░░░ is a good thing ░░░░░░░░ Rebecca I ll let ░░░░░░░░ you respond to that ░░░░░░░░ specifics of you know ░░░░░░░░ troops leaving Syria but ░░░░░░░░ there not be a ░░░░░░░░ there without that large ░░░░░░░░ a footprint Well there ░░░░░░░░ only 2 000 troops ░░░░░░░░ now in Syria and ░░░░░░░░ re providing assistance to ░░░░░░░░ who are doing the ░░░░░░░░ the bleeding and the ░░░░░░░░ the bulk of that ░░░░░░░░ the kurds and the ░░░░░░░░ let bid the kurdish ░░░░░░░░ But the problem is ░░░░░░░░ if the president wants ░░░░░░░░ make a decision to ░░░░░░░░ even that footprint which ░░░░░░░░ do think is a ░░░░░░░░ to do it so ░░░░░░░░ but even if he ░░░░░░░░ that s right there ░░░░░░░░ a way to go ░░░░░░░░ it Just a couple ░░░░░░░░ days before he made ░░░░░░░░ announcement U S Officials ░░░░░░░░ telling our partners and ░░░░░░░░ that we would not ░░░░░░░░ leaving immediately immediately And ░░░░░░░░ you know there s ░░░░░░░░ currency there there s ░░░░░░░░ that the United States ░░░░░░░░ to cultivate with our ░░░░░░░░ And if we lose ░░░░░░░░ then the United States ░░░░░░░░ t going to have ░░░░░░░░ and allies who are ░░░░░░░░ to carry a lot ░░░░░░░░ the burden and the ░░░░░░░░ Pete We ve certainly ░░░░░░░░ that in the past ░░░░░░░░ well Mayor liphold let ░░░░░░░░ ask you what s ░░░░░░░░ stake today and where ░░░░░░░░ you see it going ░░░░░░░░ both Syria and Afghanistan ░░░░░░░░ know that s a ░░░░░░░░ question for 15 seconds ░░░░░░░░ one where do you ░░░░░░░░ it going I think ░░░░░░░░ biggest concern is going ░░░░░░░░ be Afghanistan When you ░░░░░░░░ at it what s ░░░░░░░░ the arc of instability ░░░░░░░░ from China through Pakistan ░░░░░░░░ and over to Iran ░░░░░░░░ need to stay invested ░░░░░░░░ that country There are ░░░░░░░░ lot of reasons both ░░░░░░░░ and politically where we ░░░░░░░░ be staying the course ░░░░░░░░ The bottom line with ░░░░░░░░ if it is going ░░░░░░░░ be successful as a ░░░░░░░░ we are going to ░░░░░░░░ to address the issue ░░░░░░░░ Pakistan and the inner ░░░░░░░░ intelligence providing safe havens ░░░░░░░░ support and until we ░░░░░░░░ that Pakistan is going ░░░░░░░░ continue to be the ░░░░░░░░ Pete That is true ░░░░░░░░ point from a guy ░░░░░░░░ commanded troops after this ░░░░░░░░ Tata on Afghanistan You ░░░░░░░░ I think if we ░░░░░░░░ a private military contractor ░░░░░░░░ case in Syria we ░░░░░░░░ then look at the ░░░░░░░░ issue of bringing in ░░░░░░░░ military contractors into Afghanistan ░░░░░░░░ get us out of ░░░░░░░░ 17 year war The ░░░░░░░░ purpose for being there ░░░░░░░░ is to deny sanctuary ░░░░░░░░ terrorists Pete Yeah And ░░░░░░░░ have 175 000 Afghan ░░░░░░░░ army troops we ve ░░░░░░░░ 150 000 Afghan national ░░░░░░░░ troops we ve trained ░░░░░░░░ re grounds I was ░░░░░░░░ of all of that ░░░░░░░░ you know And they ░░░░░░░░ doing a good job ░░░░░░░░ you know it s ░░░░░░░░ nationalism in Afghanistan is ░░░░░░░░ because of the terrain ░░░░░░░░ is so hard And ░░░░░░░░ what I see is ░░░░░░░░ capability here the president ░░░░░░░░ trying something in Syria ░░░░░░░░ he s going to ░░░░░░░░ it in Afghanistan Pete ░░░░░░░░ the terrain and the ░░░░░░░░ allegiances that all supersede ░░░░░░░░ national identity Thank all ░░░░░░░░ you on this this ░░░░░░░░ I m legitimately conflicted ░░░░░░░░ all these topics No ░░░░░░░░ has a crystal ball ░░░░░░░░ how the geopolitics comes ░░░░░░░░ Andy Biggs former act ░░░░░░░░ Director Tom Homan Maria ░░░░░░░░ you know her we ░░░░░░░░ her, and house majority whip