Chaffetz: Lois Lerner Emails Destroyed in a Conscious Effort to Avoid Subpoena

[clip starts CHAFFETZ Are ░░░░░░░░ or are you not ░░░░░░░░ to provide this committee ░░░░░░░░ e mails as indicated ░░░░░░░░ this subpoena Yes or ░░░░░░░░ KOSKINEN We are I ░░░░░░░░ never said we CHAFFETZ ░░░░░░░░ m asking you yes ░░░░░░░░ no KOSKINEN We are ░░░░░░░░ to respond to the ░░░░░░░░ CHAFFETZ No no Sir ░░░░░░░░ s KOSKINEN Yes We ░░░░░░░░ going to respond to ░░░░░░░░ subpoena clip ends KELLY ░░░░░░░░ that was IRS Commissioner ░░░░░░░░ Koskinen testifying before the ░░░░░░░░ Oversight Committee in March ░░░░░░░░ last year telling Congressman ░░░░░░░░ Chaffetz that the IRS ░░░░░░░░ located a number of ░░░░░░░░ Lois Lerner e mails ░░░░░░░░ the targeting of Conservative ░░░░░░░░ and would provide them ░░░░░░░░ Congress Just today we ░░░░░░░░ that three weeks before ░░░░░░░░ made that claim to ░░░░░░░░ someone at the IRS ░░░░░░░░ destroyed tens of thousands ░░░░░░░░ those very e mails ░░░░░░░░ an explicit order to ░░░░░░░░ all of them and ░░░░░░░░ subpoena to hold on ░░░░░░░░ and then produce them ░░░░░░░░ us now Congressman Jason ░░░░░░░░ who is now Chairman ░░░░░░░░ the House Oversight Committee ░░░░░░░░ to see you tonight ░░░░░░░░ Chairman Do you believe ░░░░░░░░ was lying or he ░░░░░░░░ didn t know what ░░░░░░░░ going on in his ░░░░░░░░ when he told you ░░░░░░░░ CHAFFETZ According to what ░░░░░░░░ ve heard in the ░░░░░░░░ today from the inspector ░░░░░░░░ an independent group what ░░░░░░░░ said was false It ░░░░░░░░ not true Remember it ░░░░░░░░ Super Bowl Sunday in ░░░░░░░░ when the president said ░░░░░░░░ s not even a ░░░░░░░░ not even a smidgen ░░░░░░░░ evidence that there s ░░░░░░░░ nefarious going on here ░░░░░░░░ even a smidgen That ░░░░░░░░ day the IRS documents ░░░░░░░░ internally that they might ░░░░░░░░ missing e mails But ░░░░░░░░ was 30 days after ░░░░░░░░ that they actually destroyed ░░░░░░░░ evidence and then he ░░░░░░░░ 22 days later to ░░░░░░░░ and in my questioning ░░░░░░░░ testified that they would ░░░░░░░░ us all of the ░░░░░░░░ mails But they had ░░░░░░░░ destroyed them KELLY And ░░░░░░░░ deputy inspector the inspector ░░░░░░░░ is the one who ░░░░░░░░ you about this They ░░░░░░░░ over the IRS And ░░░░░░░░ deputy inspector general came ░░░░░░░░ and said this is ░░░░░░░░ unbelievable set of circumstances ░░░░░░░░ do they explain an ░░░░░░░░ mistake Some guy with ░░░░░░░░ magnet sat up against ░░░░░░░░ tapes What are they ░░░░░░░░ CHAFFETZ It happened the ░░░░░░░░ day they said they ░░░░░░░░ missing e mails the ░░░░░░░░ day the president said ░░░░░░░░ they were that there ░░░░░░░░ t even a smidgen ░░░░░░░░ evidence Remember go back ░░░░░░░░ 2011 KELLY Your point ░░░░░░░░ they were that s ░░░░░░░░ they were destroying the ░░░░░░░░ back at the IRS ░░░░░░░░ at the moment CHAFFETZ ░░░░░░░░ literally it was 30 ░░░░░░░░ later that that evidence ░░░░░░░░ a subpoena despite an ░░░░░░░░ to preserve that evidence ░░░░░░░░ had been issued seven ░░░░░░░░ prior they destroyed that ░░░░░░░░ KELLY But the inspector ░░░░░░░░ came out today and ░░░░░░░░ that there was no ░░░░░░░░ evidence that the tapes ░░░░░░░░ destroyed to hide information ░░░░░░░░ Congress CHAFFETZ They cannot ░░░░░░░░ prove that somebody made ░░░░░░░░ order to destroy that ░░░░░░░░ as a conscious effort ░░░░░░░░ avoid the subpoena But ░░░░░░░░ reality is the fact ░░░░░░░░ is such that they ░░░░░░░░ destroy the evidence there ░░░░░░░░ a subpoena in place.”