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RUSH TRANSCRIPT MATTHEWS Welcome ░░░░░░░░ to Hardball That was ░░░░░░░░ Jeffrey Meyers of the ░░░░░░░░ of life synagogue in ░░░░░░░░ responding to the horrific ░░░░░░░░ on his congregation this ░░░░░░░░ Saturday s attack took ░░░░░░░░ lives of 11 congregants ░░░░░░░░ it the deadliest attack ░░░░░░░░ Jewish people in U ░░░░░░░░ History in U S ░░░░░░░░ According to the Anti ░░░░░░░░ League it s part ░░░░░░░░ a pattern however of ░░░░░░░░ anti Semitism in the ░░░░░░░░ In 2017 the number ░░░░░░░░ anti Semitic incidents rose ░░░░░░░░ merely 60 the largest ░░░░░░░░ by the ADL President ░░░░░░░░ condemned the attack as ░░░░░░░░ but his off prompter ░░░░░░░░ have been more trouble ░░░░░░░░ the last week for ░░░░░░░░ at a rally in ░░░░░░░░ right here Trump referred ░░░░░░░░ himself as a nationalist ░░░░░░░░ term embraced by those ░░░░░░░░ a racist ideology clip ░░░░░░░░ TRUMP They have a ░░░░░░░░ that sort of became ░░░░░░░░ fashioned It s called ░░░░░░░░ nationalist And I say ░░░░░░░░ we re not supposed ░░░░░░░░ use that word You ░░░░░░░░ what I am I ░░░░░░░░ a nationalist okay I ░░░░░░░░ a nationalist Cheers and ░░░░░░░░ clip ends MATTHEWS While ░░░░░░░░ has continued to stoke ░░░░░░░░ about billionaire liberal donor ░░░░░░░░ Soros and the target ░░░░░░░░ one of the mail ░░░░░░░░ sent out last week ░░░░░░░░ he goes clip starts ░░░░░░░░ It s become radical ░░░░░░░░ You ever see the ░░░░░░░░ resist they say what ░░░░░░░░ you going to resists ░░░░░░░░ don t know Go ░░░░░░░░ a person holding the ░░░░░░░░ who gets paid by ░░░░░░░░ or somebody That s ░░░░░░░░ happens clip ends MATTHEWS ░░░░░░░░ or somebody Last year ░░░░░░░░ the deadly rally led ░░░░░░░░ white nationalists down in ░░░░░░░░ Virginia this is what ░░░░░░░░ president said clip starts ░░░░░░░░ I think there s ░░░░░░░░ on both sides You ░░░░░░░░ at you look at ░░░░░░░░ sides I think there ░░░░░░░░ blame on both sides ░░░░░░░░ also had people that ░░░░░░░░ very fine people on ░░░░░░░░ sides clip ends MATTHEWS ░░░░░░░░ fine people on both ░░░░░░░░ We re joined right ░░░░░░░░ by Julie Ioffe correspondent ░░░░░░░░ G Q Magazine and ░░░░░░░░ Howard Fineman MSNBC news ░░░░░░░░ Hours I want Howard ░░░░░░░░ want to go to ░░░░░░░░ about growing up on ░░░░░░░░ hill FINEMAN I basically ░░░░░░░░ up in tree of ░░░░░░░░ synagogue My parents were ░░░░░░░░ school teachers there I ░░░░░░░░ bar mitzvah there I ░░░░░░░░ up in the wonderful ░░░░░░░░ sprawling neighborhood of squirrel ░░░░░░░░ It may be 50 ░░░░░░░░ less than that now ░░░░░░░░ wonderful place to grow ░░░░░░░░ and a place where ░░░░░░░░ like this happening was ░░░░░░░░ Saturday at around 10 ░░░░░░░░ A M inconceivable I ░░░░░░░░ tell you Chris and ░░░░░░░░ know each other well ░░░░░░░░ was no place in ░░░░░░░░ that was more American ░░░░░░░░ yet more comfortably Jewish ░░░░░░░░ squirrel hill That comfort ░░░░░░░░ gone and the Jews ░░░░░░░░ America are now lining ░░░░░░░░ with every other group ░░░░░░░░ Americans going back hundreds ░░░░░░░░ years Chinese immigrants hispanics ░░░░░░░░ name it who have ░░░░░░░░ Americans who have suffered ░░░░░░░░ for political reasons because ░░░░░░░░ are regarded as the ░░░░░░░░ They re regarded as ░░░░░░░░ foreign something not quite ░░░░░░░░ I grew up thinking ░░░░░░░░ was impossible MATTHEWS So ░░░░░░░░ Julie your thoughts I ░░░░░░░░ been reading about you ░░░░░░░░ your experiences Unfortunately tragically ░░░░░░░░ is not completely new ░░░░░░░░ you IOFFE Right And ░░░░░░░░ have to say unfortunately ░░░░░░░░ wasn t very surprising ░░░░░░░░ me I think people ░░░░░░░░ Howard blessedly grew up ░░░░░░░░ Jews in America where ░░░░░░░░ did think this was ░░░░░░░░ unthinkable in America And ░░░░░░░░ Saturday s events it ░░░░░░░░ unthinkable I unfortunately came ░░░░░░░░ a place where it ░░░░░░░░ far more easy to ░░░░░░░░ The reason we came ░░░░░░░░ the united States from ░░░░░░░░ Soviet Union we came ░░░░░░░░ refugees fleeing anti semitism ░░░░░░░░ because in the summer ░░░░░░░░ 1988 my mother was ░░░░░░░░ in the Russian country ░░░░░░░░ with me I was ░░░░░░░░ My little sister was ░░░░░░░░ months old There was ░░░░░░░░ phone no connection to ░░░░░░░░ outside world and there ░░░░░░░░ very persistent rumors going ░░░░░░░░ about an anti jewish ░░░░░░░░ She realized she lived ░░░░░░░░ a country where the ░░░░░░░░ climate had become so ░░░░░░░░ that it was completely ░░░░░░░░ plausible and that she ░░░░░░░░ t want to raise ░░░░░░░░ kids in a country ░░░░░░░░ that And watching my ░░░░░░░░ response to and their ░░░░░░░░ break watching what happened ░░░░░░░░ squirrel hill my father ░░░░░░░░ called it an old ░░░░░░░░ pagram has been frankly ░░░░░░░░ MATTHEWS Howard let me ░░░░░░░░ you because you are ░░░░░░░░ communications expert like I ░░░░░░░░ to be Talk about ░░░░░░░░ code words I guess ░░░░░░░░ understand the nationalist of ░░░░░░░░ socialism of course and ░░░░░░░░ era of the 30s ░░░░░░░░ you had fascists and ░░░░░░░░ called themselves nationalists including ░░░░░░░░ guy whose name escapes ░░░░░░░░ right now from Spain ░░░░░░░░ of course And Mussolini ░░░░░░░░ all call themselves nationalists ░░░░░░░░ were awful for minorities ░░░░░░░░ this thing about globalist ░░░░░░░░ didn t know that ░░░░░░░░ a code I didn ░░░░░░░░ know that Soros was ░░░░░░░░ targeted because of his ░░░░░░░░ his religion his Jewishness ░░░░░░░░ me about those code ░░░░░░░░ FINEMAN Well Chris to ░░░░░░░░ ears and Jewish eyes ░░░░░░░░ kinds of words that ░░░░░░░░ credence to the theory ░░░░░░░░ there is an insidious ░░░░░░░░ in the world somehow ░░░░░░░░ quite human somehow not ░░░░░░░░ to your tribe to ░░░░░░░░ family that somehow has ░░░░░░░░ local rules or allegiance ░░░░░░░░ s been the trope ░░░░░░░░ s in the accusation ░░░░░░░░ s been used against ░░░░░░░░ Jews for hundreds if ░░░░░░░░ thousands of years And ░░░░░░░░ s something that even ░░░░░░░░ I did grow up ░░░░░░░░ I did I know ░░░░░░░░ lot of history And ░░░░░░░░ s all too familiar ░░░░░░░░ sound because it posits ░░░░░░░░ local people in the ░░░░░░░░ as something different from ░░░░░░░░ Jews who often for ░░░░░░░░ generations have lived there ░░░░░░░░ view themselves as much ░░░░░░░░ or Spanish or Russian ░░░░░░░░ any other person This ░░░░░░░░ the conundrum This is ░░░░░░░░ threat This is the ░░░░░░░░ that Jews have faced ░░░░░░░░ thousands of years Can ░░░░░░░░ add just one quick ░░░░░░░░ Chris since I have ░░░░░░░░ lot of sources back ░░░░░░░░ Pittsburgh MATTHEWS Sure FINEMAN ░░░░░░░░ m told that on ░░░░░░░░ network i e Fox ░░░░░░░░ re claiming that all ░░░░░░░░ local political officials including ░░░░░░░░ governor and the mayor ░░░░░░░░ cetera are going to ░░░░░░░░ with Donald Trump if ░░░░░░░░ goes to Pittsburgh tomorrow ░░░░░░░░ m told authoritatively by ░░░░░░░░ of those same people ░░░░░░░░ you should ask Bill ░░░░░░░░ about this they re ░░░░░░░░ having any of it ░░░░░░░░ might want Trump at ░░░░░░░░ time They don t ░░░░░░░░ him right now while ░░░░░░░░ Jewish families are hurrying ░░░░░░░░ Jewish tradition to bury ░░░░░░░░ dead.”