Tony Schwartz: Trump’s ‘Not Fit for Office,’ He’s ‘Mentally Unstable’ and a ‘Deeply Disturbed Guy’

And let s talk ░░░░░░░░ it it was someone ░░░░░░░░ knew the president way ░░░░░░░░ when Tony Schwartz he ░░░░░░░░ the co author of ░░░░░░░░ art of the deal ░░░░░░░░ Schwartz now an outspoken ░░░░░░░░ of the president Tony ░░░░░░░░ for being here Since ░░░░░░░░ re talking about books ░░░░░░░░ wanted to talk to ░░░░░░░░ who worked with the ░░░░░░░░ on a book several ░░░░░░░░ ago What is your ░░░░░░░░ to the tall revelations ░░░░░░░░ Woodward s book It ░░░░░░░░ textbook Trump he makes ░░░░░░░░ shift to whatever position ░░░░░░░░ necessary to try to ░░░░░░░░ the credibility of something ░░░░░░░░ s critical to him ░░░░░░░░ will do so in ░░░░░░░░ way that relatively few ░░░░░░░░ will by deceiving lying ░░░░░░░░ distracting anything he can ░░░░░░░░ to keep people from ░░░░░░░░ on what the book ░░░░░░░░ So he ll say ░░░░░░░░ he has to say ░░░░░░░░ the moment just to ░░░░░░░░ through the day To ░░░░░░░░ through the week He ░░░░░░░░ trying to control the ░░░░░░░░ as we know he ░░░░░░░░ trying to shift the ░░░░░░░░ what s happening though ░░░░░░░░ that he now has ░░░░░░░░ on every side of ░░░░░░░░ he will pretty much ░░░░░░░░ that he doesn t ░░░░░░░░ anybody anymore He has ░░░░░░░░ that he has occupied ░░░░░░░░ the White House saying ░░░░░░░░ re pretty nuts STELTER ░░░░░░░░ do you think too ░░░░░░░░ journalists are I think ░░░░░░░░ book the Woodward book ░░░░░░░░ renewing and reviving those ░░░░░░░░ but are they being ░░░░░░░░ seriously enough about the ░░░░░░░░ corps SCHWARTZ I think ░░░░░░░░ and I have taken ░░░░░░░░ seriously in the past ░░░░░░░░ the idea that it ░░░░░░░░ kind of an anti ░░░░░░░░ way to describe not ░░░░░░░░ for office But the ░░░░░░░░ that he s not ░░░░░░░░ for office is that ░░░░░░░░ s mentally unstable he ░░░░░░░░ a deeply disturbed guy ░░░░░░░░ But you re not ░░░░░░░░ that with a doctor ░░░░░░░░ license a psychiatrist license ░░░░░░░░ You don t need ░░░░░░░░ be a psychiatrist to ░░░░░░░░ that when someone lies ░░░░░░░░ whether we come up ░░░░░░░░ a term s psychological ░░░░░░░░ nature the bottom line ░░░░░░░░ this guy is not ░░░░░░░░ he s not logical ░░░░░░░░ s not rational and ░░░░░░░░ is indeed as you ░░░░░░░░ unfit to be president ░░░░░░░░ Let me say with ░░░░░░░░ to what s in ░░░░░░░░ Woodward book the claim ░░░░░░░░ his aides think he ░░░░░░░░ a threat to the ░░░░░░░░ a thread to national ░░░░░░░░ Is Woodward uncovering anything ░░░░░░░░ here When you read ░░░░░░░░ excerpts were you saying ░░░░░░░░ s the fuss SCHWARTZ ░░░░░░░░ s a big fuss ░░░░░░░░ people are around him ░░░░░░░░ day fully support his ░░░░░░░░ and nonetheless say he ░░░░░░░░ unfit for office That ░░░░░░░░ a huge piece of ░░░░░░░░ and it should be ░░░░░░░░ interest of anybody who ░░░░░░░░ sitting on the fence ░░░░░░░░ if they believe in ░░░░░░░░ policies it is worth ░░░░░░░░ him So a reporter ░░░░░░░░ the White House who ░░░░░░░░ you have said has ░░░░░░░░ So John Kelly s ░░░░░░░░ some of the quotes ░░░░░░░░ has denied some of ░░░░░░░░ quotes I have been ░░░░░░░░ situations where sources will ░░░░░░░░ the truth anonymously and ░░░░░░░░ they ll lie on ░░░░░░░░ record I think every ░░░░░░░░ has determined that The ░░░░░░░░ we should acknowledge that ░░░░░░░░ have denied some of ░░░░░░░░ claims Well fine acknowledge ░░░░░░░░ they have denied some ░░░░░░░░ the claims but recognize ░░░░░░░░ these are p03eople who ░░░░░░░░ consistently been not just ░░░░░░░░ Woodward but by others ░░░░░░░░ or or recognized by ░░░░░░░░ It forces people into ░░░░░░░░ portion where they lie ░░░░░░░░ order to keep their ░░░░░░░░ so if you are ░░░░░░░░ Kelly or you re ░░░░░░░░ Mattis and you have ░░░░░░░░ out on 50 or ░░░░░░░░ of them and say ░░░░░░░░ didn t do that ░░░░░░░░ do that because if ░░░░░░░░ don t do that ░░░░░░░░ don t have a ░░░░░░░░ Let s go to ░░░░░░░░ of the responses from ░░░░░░░░ world to this book ░░░░░░░░ s put on some ░░░░░░░░ the uncredible reactions to ░░░░░░░░ book people who are ░░░░░░░░ with the book say ░░░░░░░░ s a work of ░░░░░░░░ that he just talked ░░░░░░░░ disgruntled sources maybe he ░░░░░░░░ made up the stories ░░░░░░░░ he is just a ░░░░░░░░ operative and an idiot ░░░░░░░░ and Kelley issued denials ░░░░░░░░ it s to change ░░░░░░░░ subject First of all ░░░░░░░░ five of six things ░░░░░░░░ 10 more are a ░░░░░░░░ machine it s part ░░░░░░░░ the fog machine that ░░░░░░░░ and his people create ░░░░░░░░ day in every moment ░░░░░░░░ I think what s ░░░░░░░░ is that his credibility ░░░░░░░░ was never very high ░░░░░░░░ progressively diminishing even among ░░░░░░░░ who are generally supportive ░░░░░░░░ his policies So I ░░░░░░░░ this is a cumulative ░░░░░░░░ I m very low ░░░░░░░░ this point to say ░░░░░░░░ s a clear turning ░░░░░░░░ t it s an ░░░░░░░░ inflection point but I ░░░░░░░░ day by day he ░░░░░░░░ his own likelihood to ░░░░░░░░ in office.