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James Clapper: Trump’s Tweets Tell Me ‘The Walls Are Crashing in on Him’

Name: CNN


CNN This Morning

Name: CNN This Morning


John Berman

Name: John Berman

Employment: CNN

Position: Anchor

, James Clapper

Name: James Clapper

Employment: United States Intelligence Community

Position: Director of National Intelligence

Event location
08/31/2018 08:06 am
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[clip starts TRUMP Our ░░░░░░░░ Department and our FBI ░░░░░░░░ to start doing their ░░░░░░░░ and doing it right ░░░░░░░░ doing it now Because ░░░░░░░░ are angry People are ░░░░░░░░ clip ends BERMAN President ░░░░░░░░ taking on the Department ░░░░░░░░ Justice and the FBI ░░░░░░░░ a rally over night ░░░░░░░░ a new Washington Post ░░░░░░░░ News poll shows that ░░░░░░░░ it comes to handling ░░░░░░░░ Russia investigation 62 percent ░░░░░░░░ that Attorney General Jeff ░░░░░░░░ is doing it right ░░░░░░░░ 23 percent support the ░░░░░░░░ s attacks I will ░░░░░░░░ by doing it right ░░░░░░░░ this case Jeff Sessions ░░░░░░░░ has recused himself from ░░░░░░░░ and that is what ░░░░░░░░ public seems to be ░░░░░░░░ I want to bring ░░░░░░░░ former Director of National ░░░░░░░░ James Clapper CNN national ░░░░░░░░ analyst to get your ░░░░░░░░ Director thank you so ░░░░░░░░ for being with us ░░░░░░░░ looked at the President ░░░░░░░░ statement last night You ░░░░░░░░ seen his tweets over ░░░░░░░░ last few days some ░░░░░░░░ the language he s ░░░░░░░░ the interview with Bloomberg ░░░░░░░░ he calls the Mueller ░░░░░░░░ illegal and you think ░░░░░░░░ shows it is starting ░░░░░░░░ get to him How ░░░░░░░░ CLAPPER Well I just ░░░░░░░░ the volume and the ░░░░░░░░ me irrationality of some ░░░░░░░░ the things he is ░░░░░░░░ and his tweets at ░░░░░░░░ tell me that you ░░░░░░░░ the walls are kind ░░░░░░░░ crashing in on him ░░░░░░░░ when you think about ░░░░░░░░ sequence of events in ░░░░░░░░ last week or so ░░░░░░░░ the Manafort guilty plea ░░░░░░░░ the Michael Cohen plea ░░░░░░░░ and revelations about past ░░░░░░░░ that the National Enquirer ░░░░░░░░ been suppressing I just ░░░░░░░░ that more and more ░░░░░░░░ he feels like he ░░░░░░░░ in jeopardy I think ░░░░░░░░ he is trying to ░░░░░░░░ to use a military ░░░░░░░░ is prep the battlefield ░░░░░░░░ taking some action later ░░░░░░░░ in the meantime maximum ░░░░░░░░ that he can undermining ░░░░░░░░ credibility of the investigation ░░░░░░░░ I guess it s ░░░░░░░░ rhetorical ratcheting up here ░░░░░░░░ a hoax to something ░░░░░░░░ The fact that he ░░░░░░░░ not used that adjective ░░░░░░░░ is probably pretty significant ░░░░░░░░ We should note it ░░░░░░░░ not an illegal investigation ░░░░░░░░ is by completely legal ░░░░░░░░ means But you re ░░░░░░░░ he s prepping the ░░░░░░░░ by calling it illegal ░░░░░░░░ the battlefield by perhaps ░░░░░░░░ to this Lester Holt ░░░░░░░░ that we ve all ░░░░░░░░ this interview this unedited ░░░░░░░░ the President claiming it ░░░░░░░░ somehow fudged CLAPPER Yeah ░░░░░░░░ is an example of ░░░░░░░░ I think is emblematic ░░░░░░░░ the pressure the President ░░░░░░░░ under You know this ░░░░░░░░ last year months and ░░░░░░░░ ago this interview took ░░░░░░░░ and only now is ░░░░░░░░ alleging that it was ░░░░░░░░ If he were concerned ░░░░░░░░ the interview it seems ░░░░░░░░ me someone would have ░░░░░░░░ something in the immediate ░░░░░░░░ of when it happened ░░░░░░░░ to me it is ░░░░░░░░ obvious what he is ░░░░░░░░ BERMAN And you said ░░░░░░░░ s changed or is ░░░░░░░░ up you re talking ░░░░░░░░ prepping the battlefield Are ░░░░░░░░ of the mind just ░░░░░░░░ at this as an ░░░░░░░░ that we should be ░░░░░░░░ high alert for the ░░░░░░░░ Counsel to do something ░░░░░░░░ today the Friday before ░░░░░░░░ Day CLAPPER I don ░░░░░░░░ think it would be ░░░░░░░░ soon I think a ░░░░░░░░ will have to do ░░░░░░░░ midterm elections and it ░░░░░░░░ that he s extended ░░░░░░░░ General Sessions lame duck ░░░░░░░░ through the midterm elections ░░░░░░░░ think that is when ░░░░░░░░ know if there will ░░░░░░░░ a further progression in ░░░░░░░░ crisis that is when ░░░░░░░░ will occur I could ░░░░░░░░ wrong I don t ░░░░░░░░ I can t predict ░░░░░░░░ White House I would ░░░░░░░░ that it is today ░░░░░░░░ It is interesting if ░░░░░░░░ look at the ABC ░░░░░░░░ polling the public seems ░░░░░░░░ back the position Jeff ░░░░░░░░ and Jeff Sessions seems ░░░░░░░░ have enough support among ░░░░░░░░ Republican Senate to survive ░░░░░░░░ least into the midterms ░░░░░░░░ s do some housecleaning ░░░░░░░░ if I can Do ░░░░░░░░ still have your security ░░░░░░░░ CLAPPER I guess I ░░░░░░░░ t know I have ░░░░░░░░ heard anything Last I ░░░░░░░░ in the media is ░░░░░░░░ White House was trying ░░░░░░░░ come up with reasons ░░░░░░░░ revoke the eligibility of ░░░░░░░░ on his list BERMAN ░░░░░░░░ you still have you ░░░░░░░░ clearance as far as ░░░░░░░░ know While you still ░░░░░░░░ it maybe you can ░░░░░░░░ us your expertise on ░░░░░░░░ Korea Obviously the situation ░░░░░░░░ negotiations over denuclearization seem ░░░░░░░░ have stalled The President ░░░░░░░░ the trip of the ░░░░░░░░ of State Mike Pompeo ░░░░░░░░ go there In his ░░░░░░░░ with Bloomberg overnight the ░░░░░░░░ talked about how he ░░░░░░░░ his relationship with Kim ░░░░░░░░ un He says he ░░░░░░░░ at it as one ░░░░░░░░ he has a lot ░░░░░░░░ patience He says I ░░░░░░░░ greater patience than any ░░░░░░░░ being in the world ░░░░░░░░ don t understand that ░░░░░░░░ me Is being patient ░░░░░░░░ Kim Jong un the ░░░░░░░░ path CLAPPER Well first ░░░░░░░░ observation was not consistent ░░░░░░░░ that statement I find ░░░░░░░░ to be pretty impulsive ░░░░░░░░ yes having said that ░░░░░░░░ need great patience when ░░░░░░░░ comes to North Korea ░░░░░░░░ I continue to believe ░░░░░░░░ not going to denuclearize ░░░░░░░░ is their ticket to ░░░░░░░░ and they re just ░░░░░░░░ going to do that ░░░░░░░░ not in my lifetime ░░░░░░░░ I will note the ░░░░░░░░ Administration policy toward North ░░░░░░░░ was one of strategic ░░░░░░░░ so patience is something ░░░░░░░░ has been tried with ░░░░░░░░ Jong un and North ░░░░░░░░ The President now suggesting ░░░░░░░░ he will be patient ░░░░░░░░ him We will see ░░░░░░░░ long that lasts We ░░░░░░░░ see how long Director ░░░░░░░░ want to ask you ░░░░░░░░ had the opportunity to ░░░░░░░░ with John McCain who ░░░░░░░░ chairman of the Armed ░░░░░░░░ Committee for a time ░░░░░░░░ over your career Your ░░░░░░░░ as the country remembers ░░░░░░░░ CLAPPER I think the ░░░░░░░░ has lost an icon ░░░░░░░░ what he leaves is ░░░░░░░░ great legacy I like ░░░░░░░░ other witnesses that appeared ░░░░░░░░ Senator McCain was on ░░░░░░░░ receiving end of a ░░░░░░░░ of barbs even insults ░░░░░░░░ I came to understand ░░░░░░░░ you know underneath all ░░░░░░░░ that was a great ░░░░░░░░ who has rendered tremendous ░░░░░░░░ to this country and ░░░░░░░░ tremendous character and integrity ░░░░░░░░ one quick vignette When ░░░░░░░░ testified before his committee ░░░░░░░░ think in early 2012 ░░░░░░░░ was when Libya was ░░░░░░░░ up and Gaddafi was ░░░░░░░░ in power Senator Lieberman ░░░░░░░░ believe asked me who ░░░░░░░░ thought would prevail the ░░░░░░░░ or the government and ░░░░░░░░ said the government had ░░░░░░░░ weight of military power ░░░░░░░░ there was some outside ░░░░░░░░ you know they were ░░░░░░░░ to prevail People went ░░░░░░░░ over that The White ░░░░░░░░ distanced themselves from my ░░░░░░░░ Senator Lindsey Graham when ░░░░░░░░ television later that afternoon ░░░░░░░░ said they should denounce ░░░░░░░░ so I should resign ░░░░░░░░ McCain took it upon ░░░░░░░░ to call me that ░░░░░░░░ and enjoin me never ░░░░░░░░ color anything I said ░░░░░░░░ I was asked for ░░░░░░░░ professional opinion I should ░░░░░░░░ it He said 99 ░░░░░░░░ out of a hundred ░░░░░░░░ am going to agree ░░░░░░░░ Lindsey Graham but this ░░░░░░░░ one time where he ░░░░░░░░ from the lip which ░░░░░░░░ kind of a cool ░░░░░░░░ of phrase And I ░░░░░░░░ many other encounters when ░░░░░░░░ McCain Notably when I ░░░░░░░░ back to Vietnam first ░░░░░░░░ I returned there in ░░░░░░░░ years and had some ░░░░░░░░ and messages he wanted ░░░░░░░░ to convey to the ░░░░░░░░ Koreans sic I went ░░░░░░░░ Hanoi and visited Hanoi ░░░░░░░░ and saw where he ░░░░░░░░ imprisoned for those 5 ░░░░░░░░ years And I went ░░░░░░░░ the sight of where ░░░░░░░░ went down in the ░░░░░░░░ at Hanoi and there ░░░░░░░░ a very crude monument ░░░░░░░░ the Vietnamese erected in ░░░░░░░░ of that event And ░░░░░░░░ took a picture of ░░░░░░░░ and sent that picture ░░░░░░░░ Senator McCain after I ░░░░░░░░ home and he did ░░░░░░░░ very generous inscription on ░░░░░░░░ picture and signed it ░░░░░░░░ s something I will ░░░░░░░░ it for the rest ░░░░░░░░ my life BERMAN Director ░░░░░░░░ Clapper thank you very ░░░░░░░░ for being with us ░░░░░░░░ you sharing your memories ░░░░░░░░ Thanks, John.”
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