Forensic Profiler on Mollie Tibbets’ Killer: This Was Not Normal Flirtatious Behavior; This Was Stalking Behavior

>> Martha There is more ░░░░░░░░ to see you Brand ░░░░░░░░ information in the case ░░░░░░░░ a murdered college student ░░░░░░░░ Tibbetts As detectives are ░░░░░░░░ for the motive How ░░░░░░░░ why did their interaction ░░░░░░░░ so quickly And with ░░░░░░░░ a brutal end 24 ░░░░░░░░ old Rivera charged with ░░░░░░░░ degree murder He is ░░░░░░░░ to be in good ░░░░░░░░ by the former employer ░░░░░░░░ aunt now says about ░░░░░░░░ He was a good ░░░░░░░░ He was a jokester ░░░░░░░░ loved sports He was ░░░░░░░░ aggressive or violent Normal ░░░░░░░░ like us Martha We ░░░░░░░░ a forensic profiler to ░░░░░░░░ light on what might ░░░░░░░░ happened here Dale thank ░░░░░░░░ for being here How ░░░░░░░░ someone with no prior ░░░░░░░░ so quickly to this ░░░░░░░░ of behavior First of ░░░░░░░░ we don t know ░░░░░░░░ his behavior has been ░░░░░░░░ just means there has ░░░░░░░░ been an investigation or ░░░░░░░░ Just because someone hasn ░░░░░░░░ been you know this ░░░░░░░░ hasn t been arrested ░░░░░░░░ t pine they haven ░░░░░░░░ been involved in bad ░░░░░░░░ Obviously from the evidence ░░░░░░░░ is clear he was ░░░░░░░░ her at some point ░░░░░░░░ the car was seen ░░░░░░░░ the home where she ░░░░░░░░ staying So ultimately you ░░░░░░░░ I think the evidence ░░░░░░░░ shows he went to ░░░░░░░░ to interact with her ░░░░░░░░ a young male would ░░░░░░░░ rejected him That angered ░░░░░░░░ Then she talked about ░░░░░░░░ the police Which certainly ░░░░░░░░ something he didn t ░░░░░░░░ to happen And then ░░░░░░░░ got angry and enraged ░░░░░░░░ s pretty simple progression ░░░░░░░░ Yeah but I mean ░░░░░░░░ can see I guess ░░░░░░░░ you say that But ░░░░░░░░ me when someone is ░░░░░░░░ someone or is following ░░░░░░░░ Or interested in them ░░░░░░░░ have that escalate to ░░░░░░░░ happened to this poor ░░░░░░░░ woman it seems striking ░░░░░░░░ look back at some ░░░░░░░░ the other cases For ░░░░░░░░ the Kate steinly case ░░░░░░░░ we have talked about ░░░░░░░░ very different The was ░░░░░░░░ of it appears to ░░░░░░░░ been a crazy man ░░░░░░░░ is firing off a ░░░░░░░░ But this we don ░░░░░░░░ know the object It ░░░░░░░░ a sharp force object ░░░░░░░░ is no evidence that ░░░░░░░░ was any sexual assault ░░░░░░░░ may find out there ░░░░░░░░ But at this point ░░░░░░░░ doesn t appear there ░░░░░░░░ Just add some that ░░░░░░░░ for us Well first ░░░░░░░░ all he is following ░░░░░░░░ in a car This ░░░░░░░░ not normal flirtatious behavior ░░░░░░░░ is stalking behavior So ░░░░░░░░ what his relatives say ░░░░░░░░ what his employer says ░░░░░░░░ don t know what ░░░░░░░░ going on in his ░░░░░░░░ If he is he ░░░░░░░░ a young male in ░░░░░░░░ 20s One of the ░░░░░░░░ that has to be ░░░░░░░░ about and this gets ░░░░░░░░ criticized is the issue ░░░░░░░░ pornography So what is ░░░░░░░░ a lot of times ░░░░░░░░ I teach sex crime ░░░░░░░░ for the federal government ░░░░░░░░ we find is the ░░░░░░░░ is the pornography The ░░░░░░░░ becomes an obsession And ░░░░░░░░ the person is obsessing ░░░░░░░░ that And wants to ░░░░░░░░ act on it This ░░░░░░░░ not a conservative or ░░░░░░░░ liberal issue This is ░░░░░░░░ fact So we don ░░░░░░░░ know what is going ░░░░░░░░ in his mind but ░░░░░░░░ can see from the ░░░░░░░░ this was aggressive behavior ░░░░░░░░ was not normal flirtation ░░░░░░░░ are following her in ░░░░░░░░ car As you point ░░░░░░░░ that kind of thing ░░░░░░░░ show up on laptops ░░░░░░░░ any kind of computer ░░░░░░░░ that he had He ░░░░░░░░ he blacked out What ░░░░░░░░ you make of that ░░░░░░░░ s the Chris Watts ░░░░░░░░ It s convenient to ░░░░░░░░ out when you talk ░░░░░░░░ the actual action of ░░░░░░░░ crime I don t ░░░░░░░░ that is true obviously ░░░░░░░░ he has a medical ░░░░░░░░ and unless he was ░░░░░░░░ drugs or alcohol that ░░░░░░░░ not reality It sounds ░░░░░░░░ something a defense attorney ░░░░░░░░ come up with to ░░░░░░░░ out He knows all ░░░░░░░░ details before and after ░░░░░░░░ fact Very detailed description ░░░░░░░░ Absolutely But he doesn ░░░░░░░░ remember that specific thing ░░░░░░░░ mon Martha No As ░░░░░░░░ say he talks in ░░░░░░░░ detail about putting her ░░░░░░░░ his shoulder and carrying ░░░░░░░░ into the corn field ░░░░░░░░ leaving her there face ░░░░░░░░ It s horrifying And ░░░░░░░░ His memory a great ░░░░░░░░ is very clear on ░░░░░░░░ many of the details ░░░░░░░░ thank you very much ░░░░░░░░ to have your insight ░░░░░░░░ We appreciate it Thank ░░░░░░░░ for having me.