Arne Duncan: We Value Our Guns More than We Do Our Kids

RUSH TRANSCRIPT CAMEROTA Education ░░░░░░░░ on lies Those are ░░░░░░░░ first words in a ░░░░░░░░ book by Arne Duncan ░░░░░░░░ former education secretary under ░░░░░░░░ Obama So what does ░░░░░░░░ mean by that Let ░░░░░░░░ find out We re ░░░░░░░░ now by Arne Duncan ░░░░░░░░ of How Schools Work ░░░░░░░░ Inside Account of Failure ░░░░░░░░ Success from One of ░░░░░░░░ Nation s Longest Serving ░░░░░░░░ of Education Arne great ░░░░░░░░ see you DUNCAN Good ░░░░░░░░ Thanks so much for ░░░░░░░░ me CAMEROTA Here are ░░░░░░░░ lies as you lay ░░░░░░░░ out You start your ░░░░░░░░ with a bang and ░░░░░░░░ are the lies that ░░░░░░░░ say we all tell ░░░░░░░░ We value education We ░░░░░░░░ teachers We value kids ░░░░░░░░ are those lies DUNCAN ░░░░░░░░ say we value education ░░░░░░░░ s the platitude None ░░░░░░░░ us vote on education ░░░░░░░░ don t hold politics ░░░░░░░░ for raising graduation rates ░░░░░░░░ access to high quality ░░░░░░░░ K making college more ░░░░░░░░ and more affordable And ░░░░░░░░ just want to be ░░░░░░░░ I don t blame ░░░░░░░░ politicians I blame us ░░░░░░░░ across the political spectrum ░░░░░░░░ should be the ultimate ░░░░░░░░ issue We say we ░░░░░░░░ teachers We don t ░░░░░░░░ them or train them ░░░░░░░░ professionals we don t ░░░░░░░░ meaningful career ladders And ░░░░░░░░ the toughest one and ░░░░░░░░ is a hard one ░░░░░░░░ really don t think ░░░░░░░░ value our children like ░░░░░░░░ nations do We don ░░░░░░░░ invest in them early ░░░░░░░░ we don t keep ░░░░░░░░ safe We ve raised ░░░░░░░░ generation of teens on ░░░░░░░░ shootings on gun violence ░░░░░░░░ that s absolutely unacceptable ░░░░░░░░ doesn t happen in ░░░░░░░░ places CAMEROTA I saw ░░░░░░░░ in Washington D C ░░░░░░░░ the March the Never ░░░░░░░░ March after the Parkland ░░░░░░░░ shooting Columbine was in ░░░░░░░░ How have we not ░░░░░░░░ this problem yet DUNCAN ░░░░░░░░ think we value our ░░░░░░░░ more than we do ░░░░░░░░ kids And the Parkland ░░░░░░░░ have been extraordinary They ░░░░░░░░ providing amazing leadership We ░░░░░░░░ kids from Chicago joining ░░░░░░░░ My family and I ░░░░░░░░ at that March in ░░░░░░░░ And what I honestly ░░░░░░░░ is that young people ░░░░░░░░ going to succeed where ░░░░░░░░ as adults have failed ░░░░░░░░ have failed to keep ░░░░░░░░ safe We have failed ░░░░░░░░ allow them to grow ░░░░░░░░ free of fear and ░░░░░░░░ And like many movements ░░░░░░░░ civil rights movement the ░░░░░░░░ against the Vietnam War ░░░░░░░░ battle will be won ░░░░░░░░ young people s leadership ░░░░░░░░ Since you had her ░░░░░░░░ previously how do you ░░░░░░░░ education secretary Betsy DeVos ░░░░░░░░ doing DUNCAN I think ░░░░░░░░ re really struggling There ░░░░░░░░ no vision There s ░░░░░░░░ meaningful strategy I think ░░░░░░░░ s a couple goals ░░░░░░░░ as a nation should ░░░░░░░░ behind I think we ░░░░░░░░ try to lead the ░░░░░░░░ in access to high ░░░░░░░░ pre k and get ░░░░░░░░ babies off to a ░░░░░░░░ start We were proud ░░░░░░░░ get high school graduation ░░░░░░░░ to 84 We should ░░░░░░░░ the world in college ░░░░░░░░ You don t hear ░░░░░░░░ of that CAMEROTA You ░░░░░░░░ there s no vision ░░░░░░░░ talk about school choice ░░░░░░░░ s one of their ░░░░░░░░ DUNCAN That s a ░░░░░░░░ strategy That s not ░░░░░░░░ goal Our goal should ░░░░░░░░ again early access to ░░░░░░░░ childhood education high school ░░░░░░░░ rates and even higher ░░░░░░░░ lead the world in ░░░░░░░░ completion Honestly I m ░░░░░░░░ sure President Trump wants ░░░░░░░░ have the best educated ░░░░░░░░ force in the world ░░░░░░░░ Why is that DUNCAN ░░░░░░░░ doesn t play to ░░░░░░░░ authoritarian tendencies You don ░░░░░░░░ want highly educated people ░░░░░░░░ you thinking you You ░░░░░░░░ trying to call the ░░░░░░░░ enemy of the people ░░░░░░░░ trust in institutions having ░░░░░░░░ people who can think ░░░░░░░░ themselves think critically I ░░░░░░░░ not sure that s ░░░░░░░░ his self interest CAMEROTA ░░░░░░░░ you opened the door ░░░░░░░░ President Trump let s ░░░░░░░░ about this spat he ░░░░░░░░ having with Lebron James ░░░░░░░░ it relates to Lebron ░░░░░░░░ who opened this school ░░░░░░░░ Akron Ohio for at ░░░░░░░░ kids It s a ░░░░░░░░ goal It provides food ░░░░░░░░ provides transportation It provides ░░░░░░░░ and helmets Of course ░░░░░░░░ is free There will ░░░░░░░░ a cost to taxpayers ░░░░░░░░ is a public school ░░░░░░░░ think they estimate in ░░░░░░░░ to sustain this school ░░░░░░░░ will be something like ░░░░░░░░ million to the taxpayers ░░░░░░░░ Ohio What do you ░░░░░░░░ of that model DUNCAN ░░░░░░░░ of all Lebron James ░░░░░░░░ maybe the best basketball ░░░░░░░░ on the planet He ░░░░░░░░ a better person than ░░░░░░░░ is a basketball player ░░░░░░░░ I love people stepping ░░░░░░░░ I love public and ░░░░░░░░ partnerships Having a great ░░░░░░░░ academically Having the bikes ░░░░░░░░ feed kids Having color ░░░░░░░░ on the back end ░░░░░░░░ should be encouraging everyone ░░░░░░░░ do this The fact ░░░░░░░░ this is somehow threatening ░░░░░░░░ President Trump speaks volumes ░░░░░░░░ So you like the ░░░░░░░░ of somebody from the ░░░░░░░░ saying that the public ░░░░░░░░ system is broken and ░░░░░░░░ one person is going ░░░░░░░░ make the difference here ░░░░░░░░ It s not saying ░░░░░░░░ public system is broken ░░░░░░░░ s trying to create ░░░░░░░░ great option I was ░░░░░░░░ lucky going back 20 ░░░░░░░░ ago to help start ░░░░░░░░ private public school where ░░░░░░░░ weren t great school ░░░░░░░░ That school 20 years ░░░░░░░░ is one of the ░░░░░░░░ performing elementary schools in ░░░░░░░░ nation Seeing Lebron other ░░░░░░░░ step up and do ░░░░░░░░ things to what we ░░░░░░░░ we can t do ░░░░░░░░ of that We should ░░░░░░░░ all in All of ░░░░░░░░ should be all in ░░░░░░░░ have to educate our ░░░░░░░░ to a better economy ░░░░░░░░ Duncan you have a ░░░░░░░░ book out I should ░░░░░░░░ brought it over but ░░░░░░░░ s sitting on the ░░░░░░░░ I m sure we ░░░░░░░░ a graphic there we ░░░░░░░░ How schools work by ░░░░░░░░ Duncan Pick it up ░░░░░░░░ has lots of provocative ░░░░░░░░ now Now I ve ░░░░░░░░ magically handed it Thanks ░░░░░░░░ much for being here.”