Hayden on Russian Indictments: We Will See a ‘Widening Circle’ that Will Get Americans

TAPPER Joining me now ░░░░░░░░ the former director of ░░░░░░░░ NSA and CIA Thanks ░░░░░░░░ being here Many Democrats ░░░░░░░░ senator John McCain suggested ░░░░░░░░ if Trump is not ░░░░░░░░ to confront Putin with ░░░░░░░░ the summit should be ░░░░░░░░ What do you think ░░░░░░░░ No My view is ░░░░░░░░ s going to go ░░░░░░░░ We know that They ░░░░░░░░ already say that If ░░░░░░░░ were still in government ░░░░░░░░ would say it has ░░░░░░░░ go on but make ░░░░░░░░ condition This is your ░░░░░░░░ Mr President You have ░░░░░░░░ document beyond speculation You ░░░░░░░░ evidence which the intelligence ░░░░░░░░ couldn t roll out ░░░░░░░░ that community intelligence assessment ░░░░░░░░ have solid forensic detailed ░░░░░░░░ that the president can ░░░░░░░░ use of So as ░░░░░░░░ citizen I would say ░░░░░░░░ s do it Then ░░░░░░░░ want to watch to ░░░░░░░░ what the president does ░░░░░░░░ the White House points ░░░░░░░░ the fact that no ░░░░░░░░ is indicted in this ░░░░░░░░ and it is there ░░░░░░░░ no assertions any American ░░░░░░░░ with the Russian military ░░░░░░░░ With that in mind ░░░░░░░░ White House and Rudy ░░░░░░░░ the president s lawyer ░░░░░░░░ that should be the ░░░░░░░░ of it What do ░░░░░░░░ make of it when ░░░░░░░░ see unnamed individuals and ░░░░░░░░ in the indictment HAYDEN ░░░░░░░░ so clearly you know ░░░░░░░░ the indictment says we ░░░░░░░░ no view on whether ░░░░░░░░ were involved Doesn t ░░░░░░░░ no Americans were involved ░░░░░░░░ are not talking about ░░░░░░░░ now You know the ░░░░░░░░ this goes on I ░░░░░░░░ Jake you and I ░░░░░░░░ about this a long ░░░░░░░░ thinking it was going ░░░░░░░░ end up in an ░░░░░░░░ cloud If you want ░░░░░░░░ see X you will ░░░░░░░░ it If you want ░░░░░░░░ see Y you will ░░░░░░░░ it The more this ░░░░░░░░ on the more I ░░░░░░░░ we are going to ░░░░░░░░ a widening circle here ░░░░░░░░ me say something TAPPER ░░░░░░░░ mean in terms of ░░░░░░░░ HAYDEN It s not ░░░░░░░░ prediction observation I would ░░░░░░░░ be surprised if this ░░░░░░░░ in the the last ░░░░░░░░ we see that doesn ░░░░░░░░ mention an American TAPPER ░░░░░░░░ other words there will ░░░░░░░░ another indictment and Americans ░░░░░░░░ Assuming the meeting goes ░░░░░░░░ planned what do you ░░░░░░░░ this indictment does in ░░░░░░░░ of the political support ░░░░░░░░ President Trump s claim ░░░░░░░░ this is all just ░░░░░░░░ When his own administration ░░░░░░░░ Justice Department is saying ░░░░░░░░ here is fact one ░░░░░░░░ two fact three HAYDEN ░░░░░░░░ read the indictment It ░░░░░░░░ a fascinating read It ░░░░░░░░ not that long People ░░░░░░░░ to take a look ░░░░░░░░ it My first reaction ░░░░░░░░ I began to read ░░░░░░░░ was yeah like we ░░░░░░░░ TAPPER Right HAYDEN It ░░░░░░░░ consistent with the assessment ░░░░░░░░ the intelligence community It ░░░░░░░░ magnificent what I think ░░░░░░░░ forensic detail that the ░░░░░░░░ was able to put ░░░░░░░░ who did what when ░░░░░░░░ what time with what ░░░░░░░░ for what purpose against ░░░░░░░░ target Jake to kind ░░░░░░░░ spin that wheel one ░░░░░░░░ time this is largely ░░░░░░░░ think forensic information Imagine ░░░░░░░░ the Mueller team has ░░░░░░░░ with regard to this ░░░░░░░░ from other sources that ░░░░░░░░ would clearly not choose ░░░░░░░░ put in what would ░░░░░░░░ a public indictment TAPPER ░░░░░░░░ is in your trade ░░░░░░░░ signals intelligence not human ░░░░░░░░ HAYDEN It signals yes ░░░░░░░░ of Signals intelligence after ░░░░░░░░ fact it s crime ░░░░░░░░ intelligence It is going ░░░░░░░░ the law going through ░░░░░░░░ available record but very ░░░░░░░░ to do very massive ░░░░░░░░ have seen what they ░░░░░░░░ put together There s ░░░░░░░░ evidence in my reading ░░░░░░░░ the indictment of any ░░░░░░░░ in there from what ░░░░░░░░ would call the other ░░░░░░░░ of the screen what ░░░░░░░░ is to the other ░░░░░░░░ We are thinking doing ░░░░░░░░ and among themselves.”