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Giuliani: Trump Probably Has the Power to Pardon Himself But He Has No Intention of Doing That (clip)
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WTLV/WJXX-TV (NBC/ABC 12 First Coast News; Jacksonville, Fla.)

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This Week with George Stephanopoulos

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George Stephanopoulos
, Rudy Giuliani

Name: George Stephanopoulos
Employment: ABC News
Position: Anchor

Name: Rudy Giuliani
Employment: New York City
Position: Former Mayor
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New York, N.Y.
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06/04/2018 09:40 am
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STEPHANOPOULOS The most breathtaking ░░░░░░░░ to my eyes in ░░░░░░░░ letter is that claim ░░░░░░░░ the president basically cannot ░░░░░░░░ investigated for obstruction of ░░░░░░░░ that he can terminate ░░░░░░░░ investigation at any time ░░░░░░░░ any reason Any time ░░░░░░░░ any reason Giuliani I ░░░░░░░░ I think that look ░░░░░░░░ you argue you argue ░░░░░░░░ broadest possible point We ░░░░░░░░ t have to go ░░░░░░░░ STEPHANOPOULOS Well ph you ░░░░░░░░ go there Giuliani Well ░░░░░░░░ didn t I wasn ░░░░░░░░ there then I d ░░░░░░░░ that as the last ░░░░░░░░ I think the stronger ░░░░░░░░ is he didn t ░░░░░░░░ I ll bet ph ░░░░░░░░ didn t I mean ░░░░░░░░ an employee when you ░░░░░░░░ that another employee s ░░░░░░░░ to come in and ░░░░░░░░ that job and and ░░░░░░░░ the investigation cannot possibly ░░░░░░░░ the investigation He said ░░░░░░░░ to Lester Holt when ░░░░░░░░ was interviewed within days ░░░░░░░░ doing it so you ░░░░░░░░ got a contemporaneous statement ░░░░░░░░ his of his of ░░░░░░░░ intent So how s ░░░░░░░░ obstruction STEPHANOPOULOS So let ░░░░░░░░ just Giuliani How about ░░░░░░░░ Flynn conversation Saying a ░░░░░░░░ a saying to a ░░░░░░░░ prosecutor give the guy ░░░░░░░░ break You put Chris ░░░░░░░░ on on later and ░░░░░░░░ him how many times ░░░░░░░░ he told asked give ░░░░░░░░ a break You know ░░░░░░░░ that means You take ░░░░░░░░ consideration the fact that ░░░░░░░░ man was a war ░░░░░░░░ a patriot a father ░░░░░░░░ children are ph sick ░░░░░░░░ You know the whole ░░░░░░░░ Sometimes you don t ░░░░░░░░ sometimes you lessen the ░░░░░░░░ of it and sometimes ░░░░░░░░ ignore it STEPHANOPOULOS But ░░░░░░░░ to be just to ░░░░░░░░ clear to press that ░░░░░░░░ because the letter is ░░░░░░░░ explicit It says any ░░░░░░░░ for any reason If ░░░░░░░░ FBI developed evidence that ░░░░░░░░ president had accepted a ░░░░░░░░ or committed murder the ░░░░░░░░ could terminate that investigation ░░░░░░░░ I would not go ░░░░░░░░ far I I would ░░░░░░░░ go that far George ░░░░░░░░ mean John you d ░░░░░░░░ to ask John exactly ░░░░░░░░ he s relying on ░░░░░░░░ that I wouldn t ░░░░░░░░ that far I think ░░░░░░░░ circumstances where there s ░░░░░░░░ at best there s ░░░░░░░░ as to whether there ░░░░░░░░ intent For every one ░░░░░░░░ these things he did ░░░░░░░░ can write out five ░░░░░░░░ why he did it ░░░░░░░░ four of them are ░░░░░░░░ innocent and one of ░░░░░░░░ is your assumption that ░░░░░░░░ s a guilty motive ░░░░░░░░ the president would deny ░░░░░░░░ can t possibly prosecute ░░░░░░░░ STEPHANOPOULOS The letter also ░░░░░░░░ or recommend impeachment STEPHANOPOULOS ░░░░░░░░ letter also cites the ░░░░░░░░ s pardon power Do ░░░░░░░░ and the president s ░░░░░░░░ believe the president has ░░░░░░░░ power to pardon himself ░░░░░░░░ He he s not ░░░░░░░░ he probably does He ░░░░░░░░ no intention of pardoning ░░░░░░░░ but he probably not ░░░░░░░░ say he can t ░░░░░░░░ mean that that s ░░░░░░░░ really interesting constitutional argument ░░░░░░░░ the president pardon himself ░░░░░░░░ would be an open ░░░░░░░░ I think it would ░░░░░░░░ get answered by gosh ░░░░░░░░ s what the Constitution ░░░░░░░░ and if you want ░░░░░░░░ change it change it ░░░░░░░░ yes STEPHANOPOULOS Lot of ░░░░░░░░ on the president Giuliani ░░░░░░░░ think the political ramifications ░░░░░░░░ that would be tough ░░░░░░░░ other people is one ░░░░░░░░ Pardoning yourself is another ░░░░░░░░ presidents have pardoned people ░░░░░░░░ circumstances like this both ░░░░░░░░ in their administration and ░░░░░░░░ the next president even ░░░░░░░░ a different party will ░░░░░░░░ along and pardon.
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