Stavridis: Macron Deals in Hope While Trump Deals in Fear

GEIST Joining us now ░░░░░░░░ NATO supreme allied commander ░░░░░░░░ the Dean of the ░░░░░░░░ School of Law and ░░░░░░░░ at Tufts University retired ░░░░░░░░ star Navy admiral James ░░░░░░░░ he s chief international ░░░░░░░░ and diplomacy analyst for ░░░░░░░░ News and MSNBC Admiral ░░░░░░░░ always good to see ░░░░░░░░ sir If you listened ░░░░░░░░ Macron s speech in ░░░░░░░░ yesterday if you got ░░░░░░░░ the hand holding and ░░░░░░░░ kissing and all the ░░░░░░░░ feely stuff and the ░░░░░░░░ of the dandruff off ░░░░░░░░ lapel in the Oval ░░░░░░░░ Macron was railing against ░░░░░░░░ s entire theory of ░░░░░░░░ case he was railing ░░░░░░░░ the America first policy ░░░░░░░░ was railing against isolationism ░░░░░░░░ nationalism and withdrawal He ░░░░░░░░ saying we ve got ░░░░░░░░ stay in the Iran ░░░░░░░░ or at least a ░░░░░░░░ of the Iran deal ░░░░░░░░ we have to rejoin ░░░░░░░░ Paris climate accords He ░░░░░░░░ up there before all ░░░░░░░░ Congress and basically said ░░░░░░░░ Trump is doing here ░░░░░░░░ not the way to ░░░░░░░░ STAVRIDIS He did And ░░░░░░░░ thought the most important ░░░░░░░░ that Macron made in ░░░░░░░░ was the word fear ░░░░░░░░ he was saying we ░░░░░░░░ take counsel of our ░░░░░░░░ And I thought his ░░░░░░░░ in my view is ░░░░░░░░ correct one And since ░░░░░░░░ s French I ll ░░░░░░░░ Napoleon In fact I ░░░░░░░░ quoting Napoleon because I ░░░░░░░░ short and short people ░░░░░░░░ to stick together But ░░░░░░░░ said a leader is ░░░░░░░░ dealer in hope A ░░░░░░░░ is a dealer in ░░░░░░░░ I thought yesterday in ░░░░░░░░ Congress we saw a ░░░░░░░░ who is dealing in ░░░░░░░░ and I think unfortunately ░░░░░░░░ president tends to deal ░░░░░░░░ fear And I ll ░░░░░░░░ you a pragmatic point ░░░░░░░░ as well that Macron ░░░░░░░░ think sees which is ░░░░░░░░ look at this administration ░░░░░░░░ a big complicated difficult ░░░░░░░░ But I think Macron ░░░░░░░░ taken a very French ░░░░░░░░ a sense a very ░░░░░░░░ approach He quoted Voltaire ░░░░░░░░ I ll return a ░░░░░░░░ quote which is Life ░░░░░░░░ a shipwreck save what ░░░░░░░░ can I think the ░░░░░░░░ are trying to save ░░░░░░░░ they can And I ░░░░░░░░ it because I think ░░░░░░░░ U S and France ░░░░░░░░ especially if we can ░░░░░░░░ NATO into this which ░░░░░░░░ how you do get ░░░░░░░░ Brits in it s ░░░░░░░░ you do square the ░░░░░░░░ with Germany I think ░░░░░░░░ is some trade space ░░░░░░░░ we can work globally ░░░░░░░░ SCARBOROUGH I never knew ░░░░░░░░ applied to this show ░░░░░░░░ has to be Morning ░░░░░░░░ is a shipwreck Salvage ░░░░░░░░ you can GEIST That ░░░░░░░░ our new show motto ░░░░░░░░ quotes We ve got ░░░░░░░░ get you on Lafayette ░░░░░░░░ complete the trifecta admiral ░░░░░░░░ s talk about the ░░░░░░░░ deal because the President ░░░░░░░░ yesterday or two days ░░░░░░░░ he was open to ░░░░░░░░ new version of the ░░░░░░░░ deal He wants to ░░░░░░░░ some amendments which was ░░░░░░░░ because the back and ░░░░░░░░ between the two of ░░░░░░░░ was at the beginning ░░░░░░░░ the trip Macron said ░░░░░░░░ in the deal and ░░░░░░░░ very publicly in front ░░░░░░░░ the cameras with Macron ░░░░░░░░ next to him President ░░░░░░░░ railed against the Iran ░░░░░░░░ and then finally got ░░░░░░░░ Well there s some ░░░░░░░░ of the Iran deal ░░░░░░░░ would consider So where ░░░░░░░░ you think this goes ░░░░░░░░ STAVRIDIS Unfortunately the President ░░░░░░░░ a tendency to shall ░░░░░░░░ say whipsaw us with ░░░░░░░░ To me the most ░░░░░░░░ one a couple of ░░░░░░░░ ago was You know ░░░░░░░░ I may come back ░░░░░░░░ the Trans Pacific Partnership ░░░░░░░░ was pretty amazing But ░░░░░░░░ dropped like a stone ░░░░░░░░ we ve heard nothing ░░░░░░░░ about it I have ░░░░░░░░ feeling particularly with John ░░░░░░░░ the new national security ░░░░░░░░ hawk on Iran Mike ░░░░░░░░ presumably our next secretary ░░░░░░░░ state tough on Iran ░░░░░░░░ think the President will ░░░░░░░░ counsel again of fear ░░░░░░░░ and try and make ░░░░░░░░ deal harder That s ░░░░░░░░ to be tough I ░░░░░░░░ the chances of the ░░░░░░░░ buying a new deal ░░░░░░░░ roughly the same as ░░░░░░░░ Mexicans paying for the ░░░░░░░░ Neither one of those ░░░░░░░░ going to happen And ░░░░░░░░ re headed toward unfortunately ░░░░░░░░ very difficult situation in ░░░░░░░░ over the next I ░░░░░░░░ say four weeks The ░░░░░░░░ here is how does ░░░░░░░░ impact the North Korea ░░░░░░░░ If you re Kim ░░░░░░░░ un and you see ░░░░░░░░ rug being pulled out ░░░░░░░░ the Iranians I think ░░░░░░░░ re less inclined to ░░░░░░░░ to give up those ░░░░░░░░ and cut a big ░░░░░░░░ deal Because back to ░░░░░░░░ policy all of a ░░░░░░░░ it looks different than ░░░░░░░░ did a few weeks ░░░░░░░░ a few months earlier.”