RUSH TRANSCRIPT Here as ░░░░░░░░ bring in president and ░░░░░░░░ of fresh Did I ░░░░░░░░ David Kennedy he s ░░░░░░░░ marine veteran who developed ░░░░░░░░ signal sniffer device that ░░░░░░░░ authorities are using to ░░░░░░░░ and track Nancy Guthrie ░░░░░░░░ pacemaker Also joining us ░░░░░░░░ investigating genetic genealogist Mr ░░░░░░░░ good morning to both ░░░░░░░░ you misty Let me ░░░░░░░░ start with you and ░░░░░░░░ up or Nancy just ░░░░░░░░ off there because just ░░░░░░░░ we haven t gotten ░░░░░░░░ match in the quota ░░░░░░░░ yet doesn t mean ░░░░░░░░ s a dead end ░░░░░░░░ That s right that ░░░░░░░░ where investigative genetic genealogy ░░░░░░░░ comes into play because ░░░░░░░░ re not using that ░░░░░░░░ do on computers in ░░░░░░░░ coldest users were using ░░░░░░░░ genetic genealogy databases and ░░░░░░░░ enforcement has access to ░░░░░░░░ we re going to ░░░░░░░░ that profile that they ░░░░░░░░ to the users in ░░░░░░░░ database which is just ░░░░░░░░ about two million currently ░░░░░░░░ If we can find ░░░░░░░░ through that and just ░░░░░░░░ quick follow up for ░░░░░░░░ there If you do ░░░░░░░░ a match on any ░░░░░░░░ these sites like 20 ░░░░░░░░ and Mary ancestry dot ░░░░░░░░ what are the chances ░░░░░░░░ it actually leads to ░░░░░░░░ that s been on ░░░░░░░░ radar That list of ░░░░░░░░ names are taken to ░░░░░░░░ these gun shops in ░░░░░░░░ area and not just ░░░░░░░░ maintenance guy who was ░░░░░░░░ her house a few ░░░░░░░░ ago Fixing something they ░░░░░░░░ that out Just to ░░░░░░░░ aren t we don ░░░░░░░░ use ancestry and 20 ░░░░░░░░ and me were only ░░░░░░░░ use third marriage and ░░░░░░░░ tree DNA but really ░░░░░░░░ comes to identifying the ░░░░░░░░ like you said so ░░░░░░░░ can t guarantee that ░░░░░░░░ is going to be ░░░░░░░░ offenders profile It could ░░░░░░░░ linked to somebody that ░░░░░░░░ do maintenance in the ░░░░░░░░ for it again ruling ░░░░░░░░ profile outlet help investigators ░░░░░░░░ investigation forward and David ░░░░░░░░ everybody so focused on ░░░░░░░░ glove that was found ░░░░░░░░ miles away from Nancy ░░░░░░░░ home right I think ░░░░░░░░ s a lot of ░░░░░░░░ as to if that ░░░░░░░░ as even involved in ░░░░░░░░ case or not authorities ░░░░░░░░ 16 gloves in and ░░░░░░░░ her house Should we ░░░░░░░░ more focused on the ░░░░░░░░ found inside her home ░░░░░░░░ doesn t match Nancy ░░░░░░░░ anybody within her close ░░░░░░░░ Yeah agreed A respirator ░░░░░░░░ know the glove is ░░░░░░░░ be no technology or ░░░░░░░░ that s being able ░░░░░░░░ come through older technologies ░░░░░░░░ months to go through ░░░░░░░░ so going to cameras ░░░░░░░░ cameras time of of ░░░░░░░░ and so there to ░░░░░░░░ piecing together the clothing ░░░░░░░░ they were using off ░░░░░░░░ forensics accounting to go ░░░░░░░░ So you can immerse ░░░░░░░░ that purchase the globe ░░░░░░░░ with the backpack with ░░░░░░░░ overall outfits All those ░░░░░░░░ are going to be ░░░░░░░░ a profile exactly how ░░░░░░░░ works and go take ░░░░░░░░ lot of time to ░░░░░░░░ through it all and ░░░░░░░░ As I mentioned at ░░░░░░░░ top you invented the ░░░░░░░░ signal sniffer that s ░░░░░░░░ used to try to ░░░░░░░░ her pacemaker they ve ░░░░░░░░ it to the helicopter ░░░░░░░░ ve seen it flying ░░░░░░░░ low altitude It s ░░░░░░░░ there would have you ░░░░░░░░ back from investigators have ░░░░░░░░ gotten any sort of ░░░░░░░░ from that Although the ░░░░░░░░ system of deploying in ░░░░░░░░ field is is really ░░░░░░░░ If you are really ░░░░░░░░ to a signal being ░░░░░░░░ in the middle the ░░░░░░░░ or things like that ░░░░░░░░ capabilities and I m ░░░░░░░░ ve been working with ░░░░░░░░ enforcement expand their reach ░░░░░░░░ further So instead of ░░░░░░░░ 20 to 30 feet ░░░░░░░░ forty feet which would ░░░░░░░░ very difficult from a ░░░░░░░░ you can amplify the ░░░░░░░░ with what are called ░░░░░░░░ fires and army directional ░░░░░░░░ The give you three ░░░░░░░░ sixty degree view on ░░░░░░░░ lie to get anywhere ░░░░░░░░ eight hundred two thousand ░░░░░░░░ of collection and that ░░░░░░░░ transmits every two to ░░░░░░░░ minutes for about one ░░░░░░░░ which is an eternity ░░░░░░░░ the computer world and ░░░░░░░░ after in close proximity ░░░░░░░░ eight hundred feet two ░░░░░░░░ feet Virginia their helicopters ░░░░░░░░ that can think of ░░░░░░░░ signal pretty quickly and ░░░░░░░░ s what s going ░░░░░░░░ take time you know ░░░░░░░░ look at about a ░░░░░░░░ 20 mile radius probably ░░░░░░░░ about two weeks with ░░░░░░░░ fifty drones if you ░░░░░░░░ using helicopters Currently it ░░░░░░░░ a little he s ░░░░░░░░ abilities are working on ░░░░░░░░ go out in leveraging ░░░░░░░░ fleet to get much ░░░░░░░░ distance on cover more ░░░░░░░░ It s something that ░░░░░░░░ force actually working officer ░░░░░░░░ we ve seen that ░░░░░░░░ flying we ve seen ░░░░░░░░ four hundred agents on ░░░░░░░░ ground working this case ░░░░░░░░ now they ve reached ░░░░░░░░ country lines down to ░░░░░░░░ Now any word on ░░░░░░░░ ground from authorities how ░░░░░░░░ they can keep up ░░░░░░░░ kind of presence on ░░░░░░░░ one One story in ░░░░░░░░ case They are going ░░░░░░░░ indefinitely and there are ░░░░░░░░ four hundred investigators at ░░░░░░░░ four hundred involved in ░░░░░░░░ Both federal and local ░░░░░░░░ in pima county they ░░░░░░░░ gonna go as long ░░░░░░░░ they need to go ░░░░░░░░ the sheriff has stressed ░░░░░░░░ he wants this case ░░░░░░░░ It is of course ░░░░░░░░ biggest case in pima ░░░░░░░░ perhaps in it s ░░░░░░░░ history and when it ░░░░░░░░ to that DNA inside ░░░░░░░░ house it s important ░░░░░░░░ note that yes dancing ░░░░░░░░ had many people who ░░░░░░░░ to this property Not ░░░░░░░░ were there there was ░░░░░░░░ electrician that work inside ░░░░░░░░ home recently there s ░░░░░░░░ pool staff There s ░░░░░░░░ house keeper and I ░░░░░░░░ seen the landscaping staff ░░░░░░░░ as well so there ░░░░░░░░ a lot to go ░░░░░░░░ when it comes to ░░░░░░░░ that DNA and ruling ░░░░░░░░ people out So it ░░░░░░░░ takes patience in allowing ░░░░░░░░ enforcement to do their ░░░░░░░░ and Nancy Is there ░░░░░░░░ have security outside her ░░░░░░░░ this morning Every morning ░░░░░░░░ ve seen a security ░░░░░░░░ behind kind of at ░░░░░░░░ front door Does that ░░░░░░░░ remain on site yeah ░░░░░░░░ pima county sheriff s ░░░░░░░░ remains on duty here ░░░░░░░░ the home protect of ░░░░░░░░ people from trespassing onto ░░░░░░░░ property That is at ░░░░░░░░ request of the got ░░░░░░░░ family marquee misty Let ░░░░░░░░ also ask you because ░░░░░░░░ other chatter has been ░░░░░░░░ this guy have an ░░░░░░░░ that we spare have ░░░░░░░░ on surveillance video at ░░░░░░░░ front door Or did ░░░░░░░░ work alone Was he ░░░░░░░░ a team You have ░░░░░░░░ thoughts on that and ░░░░░░░░ you stand on that ░░░░░░░░ morning The really don ░░░░░░░░ I don t see ░░░░░░░░ evidence once an accomplice ░░░░░░░░ mean we only have ░░░░░░░░ school video of him ░░░░░░░░ through and it really ░░░░░░░░ on what they see ░░░░░░░░ wise What they were ░░░░░░░░ to collect is are ░░░░░░░░ are known profiles or ░░░░░░░░ out worn unknown profile ░░░░░░░░ I think there were ░░░░░░░░ on a light into ░░░░░░░░ theory.