Tucker Grills Feminist on Macy’s Selling Hijabs: Is It a Feminist Goal for Women To Be Coerced to Dress Modestly?

RUSH TRANSCRIPT Tucker The ░░░░░░░░ population of the west ░░░░░░░░ rising very quickly and ░░░░░░░░ his implications for national ░░░░░░░░ in national security It ░░░░░░░░ also influencing fashion Macy ░░░░░░░░ has he announced a ░░░░░░░░ line of fashionable modest ░░░░░░░░ targeted at muslims Mikey ░░░░░░░░ American eagle already have ░░░░░░░░ like that What does ░░░░░░░░ mean New York City ░░░░░░░░ she joins us tonight ░░░░░░░░ for coming on I ░░░░░░░░ happy to be here ░░░░░░░░ So this announcement was ░░░░░░░░ by feminists and it ░░░░░░░░ me thinking do you ░░░░░░░░ that Islam is a ░░░░░░░░ religion Well what I ░░░░░░░░ is that religion in ░░░░░░░░ form throughout history has ░░░░░░░░ women in many ways ░░░░░░░░ Islam isn t any ░░░░░░░░ what s striking to ░░░░░░░░ about this new line ░░░░░░░░ Macy s is that ░░░░░░░░ women in the United ░░░░░░░░ have 44 billion in ░░░░░░░░ power That s pretty ░░░░░░░░ Carlson That s great ░░░░░░░░ m all for buying ░░░░░░░░ The point in Islamic ░░░░░░░░ is to promote modesty ░░░░░░░░ women For a bunch ░░░░░░░░ different reasons It s ░░░░░░░░ the Quran It s ░░░░░░░░ course a central part ░░░░░░░░ Islamic culture So are ░░░░░░░░ for that Do you ░░░░░░░░ women should be coerced ░░░░░░░░ dress modestly Is that ░░░░░░░░ feminist goal I think ░░░░░░░░ a feminist goal is ░░░░░░░░ women to be in ░░░░░░░░ of their lives and ░░░░░░░░ destinies and to have ░░░░░░░░ So whether a woman ░░░░░░░░ to wear a hijab ░░░░░░░░ she doesn t is ░░░░░░░░ not the point I ░░░░░░░░ what s really interesting ░░░░░░░░ we have been seeing ░░░░░░░░ Wait wait I m ░░░░░░░░ it s not the ░░░░░░░░ So if I say ░░░░░░░░ Islamic countries do you ░░░░░░░░ t have a choice ░░░░░░░░ have to wear the ░░░░░░░░ because you need to ░░░░░░░░ modest and if you ░░░░░░░░ not you could get ░░░░░░░░ and if you do ░░░░░░░░ s your fault and ░░░░░░░░ have to avert your ░░░░░░░░ from men and not ░░░░░░░░ nonrelatives who are men ░░░░░░░░ that okay with you ░░░░░░░░ was referring to the ░░░░░░░░ States But you know ░░░░░░░░ s really interesting if ░░░░░░░░ take a look at ░░░░░░░░ s happening here you ░░░░░░░░ in the United States ░░░░░░░░ who had never done ░░░░░░░░ hijab in their entire ░░░░░░░░ And marched over to ░░░░░░░░ airport at the time ░░░░░░░░ the Trump travel ban ░░░░░░░░ started wearing hijab because ░░░░░░░░ a symbol of resistance ░░░░░░░░ protest to that At ░░░░░░░░ same time they are ░░░░░░░░ them as a symbol ░░░░░░░░ empowerment and at the ░░░░░░░░ time you have right ░░░░░░░░ in Iran have you ░░░░░░░░ who are bravely getting ░░░░░░░░ on platforms and ripping ░░░░░░░░ their hijab because it ░░░░░░░░ compulse tore there and ░░░░░░░░ are risking their lives ░░░░░░░░ being arrested Tucker I ░░░░░░░░ agree with you I ░░░░░░░░ on their side completely ░░░░░░░░ you be if Macy ░░░░░░░░ sold new line of ░░░░░░░░ foot binding shoes would ░░░░░░░░ be different too That ░░░░░░░░ would damage your feet ░░░░░░░░ would probably have to ░░░░░░░░ Tucker I don t ░░░░░░░░ All cosmetic procedures damage ░░░░░░░░ body All of them ░░░░░░░░ that s not really ░░░░░░░░ All cosmetic procedures damage ░░░░░░░░ body All of them ░░░░░░░░ that s not really ░░░░░░░░ answer But if women ░░░░░░░░ I find that empowering ░░░░░░░░ as I find it ░░░░░░░░ to wear clothing that ░░░░░░░░ of Muslim women are ░░░░░░░░ to wear women in ░░░░░░░░ to be modest somehow ░░░░░░░░ For some reason it ░░░░░░░░ not that simple It ░░░░░░░░ not black and white ░░░░░░░░ some women it is ░░░░░░░░ empowering And for others ░░░░░░░░ is not And it ░░░░░░░░ is a matter of ░░░░░░░░ as to where you ░░░░░░░░ Let s talk about ░░░░░░░░ Tucker What female mutilation ░░░░░░░░ about men they are ░░░░░░░░ the subway August days ░░░░░░░░ feel so bad for ░░░░░░░░ men with their suits ░░░░░░░░ their ties Tucker I ░░░░░░░░ bad for them too ░░░░░░░░ for other reasons You ░░░░░░░░ letting society tell you ░░░░░░░░ you should dress Tucker ░░░░░░░░ it past this idea ░░░░░░░░ to on open minded ░░░░░░░░ modern man The idea ░░░░░░░░ a garment that a ░░░░░░░░ has forced women to ░░░░░░░░ for more than a ░░░░░░░░ years because they are ░░░░░░░░ forcing them to be ░░░░░░░░ is somehow empowering for ░░░░░░░░ I mean do you ░░░░░░░░ that for example women ░░░░░░░░ asked to walk behind ░░░░░░░░ husbands or in some ░░░░░░░░ you are not allowed ░░░░░░░░ drive or vote Under ░░░░░░░░ circumstances can that be ░░░░░░░░ Can female gender mutilation ░░░░░░░░ empowering That s common ░░░░░░░░ country Those are quite ░░░░░░░░ examples that you are ░░░░░░░░ to compare Tucker No ░░░░░░░░ don t know why ░░░░░░░░ are all features of ░░░░░░░░ same religion and they ░░░░░░░░ all gender specific So ░░░░░░░░ don t know I ░░░░░░░░ I think they are ░░░░░░░░ too I think the ░░░░░░░░ is extreme You don ░░░░░░░░ for some reason and ░░░░░░░░ don t know why ░░░░░░░░ I said there are ░░░░░░░░ who do find it ░░░░░░░░ But most importantly it ░░░░░░░░ really not the top ░░░░░░░░ I don t go ░░░░░░░░ work every day and ░░░░░░░░ about what wardrobes women ░░░░░░░░ wearing and what it ░░░░░░░░ Tucker Oh really I ░░░░░░░░ that was a huge ░░░░░░░░ of women s liberation ░░░░░░░░ A big part of ░░░░░░░░ s liberation is making ░░░░░░░░ that the Trump Administration ░░░░░░░░ not roll back our ░░░░░░░░ to full reproductive healthcare ░░░░░░░░ Abortion right I go ░░░░░░░░ work every day to ░░░░░░░░ about how to close ░░░░░░░░ wage gap Tucker I ░░░░░░░░ starting to think care ░░░░░░░░ about identity politics than ░░░░░░░░ I m throwing that ░░░░░░░░ there Endorsing the hijab ░░░░░░░░ it s not about ░░░░░░░░ has that occurred to ░░░░░░░░ The only thing I ░░░░░░░░ endorsing today with you ░░░░░░░░ with all of your ░░░░░░░░ is that Tucker Okay ░░░░░░░░ is alive and well ░░░░░░░░ women in this country ░░░░░░░░ In the form of ░░░░░░░░ hijab for example just ░░░░░░░░ name one No Tucker ░░░░░░░░ is so lunatic I ░░░░░░░░ t go on In ░░░░░░░░ workplace to name one ░░░░░░░░ Tucker This is so ░░░░░░░░ I can t go ░░░░░░░░ In the workplace What ░░░░░░░░ need to do is ░░░░░░░░ sexual harassment in the ░░░░░░░░ Tucker And the hijab ░░░░░░░░ Close the wage gap ░░░░░░░░ if those women can ░░░░░░░░ that while wearing a ░░░░░░░░ more power to them ░░░░░░░░ I will be there ░░░░░░░░ them Tucker Or foot ░░░░░░░░ or fjn Thank you ░░░░░░░░ s been fun.