Tony Dokoupil Tells Tom Homan, ‘It’s Just Not Believable’ That ICE Agents Haven’t Used ‘Excessive Force’

DOKOUPIL These videos that ░░░░░░░░ months and months have ░░░░░░░░ going around that people ░░░░░░░░ and they share and ░░░░░░░░ say Look at this ░░░░░░░░ of excessive force again ░░░░░░░░ m not going to ░░░░░░░░ any particular incident or ░░░░░░░░ you in detail about ░░░░░░░░ but I m curious ░░░░░░░░ ve seen these videos ░░░░░░░░ m sure you ve ░░░░░░░░ more than is even ░░░░░░░░ Have you seen any ░░░░░░░░ of clear excessive force ░░░░░░░░ by ICE agents and ░░░░░░░░ in the field HOMAN ░░░░░░░░ DOKOUPIL During the whole ░░░░░░░░ HOMAN Things that I ░░░░░░░░ seen DOKOUPIL Yeah HOMAN ░░░░░░░░ And when I hear ░░░░░░░░ thing or see a ░░░░░░░░ that an allegation is ░░░░░░░░ I file a warrant ░░░░░░░░ sure that it s ░░░░░░░░ fully investigated I haven ░░░░░░░░ seen one ICE officer ░░░░░░░░ guilty of anything inappropriate ░░░░░░░░ I m not involved ░░░░░░░░ every arrest and we ░░░░░░░░ making thousands of arrests ░░░░░░░░ day over 2 000 ░░░░░░░░ day on average I ░░░░░░░░ t be aware of ░░░░░░░░ ICE arrest I trust ░░░░░░░░ men and women of ░░░░░░░░ and Border Patrol are ░░░░░░░░ trained They get Fourth ░░░░░░░░ training every six months ░░░░░░░░ am putting my faith ░░░░░░░░ them that they do ░░░░░░░░ right thing every day ░░░░░░░░ there And if they ░░░░░░░░ t they ll be ░░░░░░░░ accountable DOKOUPIL I won ░░░░░░░░ ask you a kind ░░░░░░░░ a bald question here ░░░░░░░░ mean just a straight ░░░░░░░░ question You re telling ░░░░░░░░ you ve never seen ░░░░░░░░ your tenure any example ░░░░░░░░ excessive force You re ░░░░░░░░ me you ve not ░░░░░░░░ any comment from any ░░░░░░░░ of this administration that ░░░░░░░░ inflammatory or racist or ░░░░░░░░ any way demeaning toward ░░░░░░░░ immigrant community That s ░░░░░░░░ you re telling me ░░░░░░░░ know because I ve ░░░░░░░░ to people out there ░░░░░░░░ over the country a ░░░░░░░░ of Americans are going ░░░░░░░░ hear that and they ░░░░░░░░ going to be yelling ░░░░░░░░ their television they re ░░░░░░░░ to be saying that ░░░░░░░░ idea that it s ░░░░░░░░ there s nothing there ░░░░░░░░ you re calling them ░░░░░░░░ HOMAN I m not ░░░░░░░░ anybody crazy I m ░░░░░░░░ you what I know ░░░░░░░░ I ve seen And ░░░░░░░░ told you there are ░░░░░░░░ 2 000 arrests every ░░░░░░░░ I can t see ░░░░░░░░ arrest DOKOUPIL But it ░░░░░░░░ comes down to zero ░░░░░░░░ zero problems zero comments ░░░░░░░░ s just not believable ░░░░░░░░ a lot of people ░░░░░░░░ myself There s nothing ░░░░░░░░ you would have ICE ░░░░░░░░ differently in any of ░░░░░░░░ cases We ve seen ░░░░░░░░ of these videos Nothing ░░░░░░░░ I have not seen ░░░░░░░░ act out outside of ░░░░░░░░ And if they are ░░░░░░░░ outside of policy I ░░░░░░░░ not aware of it ░░░░░░░░ ll be an investigation ░░░░░░░░ they ll be held ░░░░░░░░