Clapper on Trump Calling Him a Liar and Leaker: ‘I Am in Very Good Company with the Likes of Adam Schiff’

CAMEROTA President Trump is ░░░░░░░░ whether to make public ░░░░░░░░ Democratic rebuttal to the ░░░░░░░░ memo that alleges FBI ░░░░░░░░ abuses In a tweet ░░░░░░░░ Democrats Congressman Adam Schiff ░░░░░░░░ president also slammed former ░░░░░░░░ officials He tweeted this ░░░░░░░░ Adam Schiff who is ░░░░░░░░ to run for higher ░░░░░░░░ is one of the ░░░░░░░░ liars and leakers in ░░░░░░░░ right up there with ░░░░░░░░ Warner Brennan and Clapper ░░░░░░░░ leaves closed committee hearings ░░░░░░░░ illegally leak confidential information ░░░░░░░░ be stopped Joining us ░░░░░░░░ is one of those ░░░░░░░░ in that tweet CNN ░░░░░░░░ security analyst and former ░░░░░░░░ of National Intelligence James ░░░░░░░░ He s read the ░░░░░░░░ dossier and was among ░░░░░░░░ group of intel officials ░░░░░░░░ briefed then President elect ░░░░░░░░ on national security threats ░░░░░░░░ before he took office ░░░░░░░░ Clapper thanks so much ░░░░░░░░ being here CLAPPER Thanks ░░░░░░░░ CAMEROTA You are one ░░░░░░░░ the biggest liars and ░░░░░░░░ in Washington according to ░░░░░░░░ president What s your ░░░░░░░░ CLAPPER Well I have ░░░░░░░░ to progress from being ░░░░░░░░ Nazi to a choker ░░░░░░░░ the hearing that Sally ░░░░░░░░ and I testified last ░░░░░░░░ 8th and then a ░░░░░░░░ hack on Veterans Day ░░░░░░░░ less And so being ░░░░░░░░ leaker and liar I ░░░░░░░░ actually I think I ░░░░░░░░ in very good company ░░░░░░░░ the likes of Adam ░░░░░░░░ and Mark Warner Jim ░░░░░░░░ and John Brennan So ░░░░░░░░ guess this is just ░░░░░░░░ But I mean is ░░░░░░░░ yes but is this ░░░░░░░░ just the cost of ░░░░░░░░ business in Washington or ░░░░░░░░ this at a different ░░░░░░░░ I mean being called ░░░░░░░░ of the biggest liars ░░░░░░░░ leakers in Washington does ░░░░░░░░ get to you CLAPPER ░░░░░░░░ it doesn t And ░░░░░░░░ in itself I think ░░░░░░░░ kind of a sad ░░░░░░░░ I remember thinking when ░░░░░░░░ tweeted out about Sally ░░░░░░░░ and me choking at ░░░░░░░░ hearing had had I ░░░░░░░░ up in the Oval ░░░░░░░░ in the last administration ░░░░░░░░ President Obama had commented ░░░░░░░░ me hey you really ░░░░░░░░ on this hearing I ░░░░░░░░ have been devastated But ░░░░░░░░ it doesn t seem ░░░░░░░░ matter And that in ░░░░░░░░ is a sad commentary ░░░░░░░░ this is just this ░░░░░░░░ normal now And that ░░░░░░░░ a part of the ░░░░░░░░ situation we find ourselves ░░░░░░░░ where the discourse in ░░░░░░░░ has gotten so crude ░░░░░░░░ so coarse that you ░░░░░░░░ people are starting to ░░░░░░░░ to be jaded to ░░░░░░░░ CAMEROTA I mean I ░░░░░░░░ that what the president ░░░░░░░░ referring to if it ░░░░░░░░ possible to get into ░░░░░░░░ brain is just what ░░░░░░░░ re talked about is ░░░░░░░░ you were one of ░░░░░░░░ people who saw the ░░░░░░░░ intel You saw the ░░░░░░░░ in which their some ░░░░░░░░ the Trump associates were ░░░░░░░░ And you were asked ░░░░░░░░ that at the hearing ░░░░░░░░ you wouldn t talk ░░░░░░░░ that at an open ░░░░░░░░ But he s suggesting ░░░░░░░░ later you leaked information ░░░░░░░░ you were one of ░░░░░░░░ anonymous sources CLAPPER Well ░░░░░░░░ didn t leak anything ░░░░░░░░ the media And I ░░░░░░░░ talk about the process ░░░░░░░░ in unmasking and what ░░░░░░░░ it And when a ░░░░░░░░ S person is engaged ░░░░░░░░ a valid foreign target ░░░░░░░░ s a very important ░░░░░░░░ and there is reporting ░░░░░░░░ it and that person ░░░░░░░░ S person in order ░░░░░░░░ protect identity and civil ░░░░░░░░ and privacy will be ░░░░░░░░ identified as U S ░░░░░░░░ one or U S ░░░░░░░░ two or U S ░░░░░░░░ three you re going ░░░░░░░░ understand the context of ░░░░░░░░ then there is a ░░░░░░░░ for requesting the identity ░░░░░░░░ unmasking of that person ░░░░░░░░ I did describe the ░░░░░░░░ at that hearing I ░░░░░░░░ not go into details ░░░░░░░░ specific unmasking requests because ░░░░░░░░ of course is classified ░░░░░░░░ OK So at because ░░░░░░░░ re one of the ░░░░░░░░ who knows the intel ░░░░░░░░ who read the dossier ░░░░░░░░ who went to brief ░░░░░░░░ president elect on some ░░░░░░░░ of it as well ░░░░░░░░ President Obama what do ░░░░░░░░ think of this Devin ░░░░░░░░ memo being released and ░░░░░░░░ possibility of the Democratic ░░░░░░░░ being released CLAPPER Well ░░░░░░░░ on the memo itself ░░░░░░░░ it reminded me of ░░░░░░░░ old Peggy Lee song ░░░░░░░░ I m dating myself ░░░░░░░░ is that all there ░░░░░░░░ from a content standpoint ░░░░░░░░ a form ph standpoint ░░░░░░░░ has many more implications ░░░░░░░░ the least of which ░░░░░░░░ course is demeaning and ░░░░░░░░ the Federal Bureau of ░░░░░░░░ which is a magnificent ░░░░░░░░ and the Department of ░░░░░░░░ And so from that ░░░░░░░░ it s bad There ░░░░░░░░ all kinds of sub ░░░░░░░░ here in terms of ░░░░░░░░ of information Now I ░░░░░░░░ perhaps being a lot ░░░░░░░░ reticent about providing information ░░░░░░░░ the bureau in the ░░░░░░░░ of sources and methods ░░░░░░░░ partners may become more ░░░░░░░░ So for all those ░░░░░░░░ and others I think ░░░░░░░░ is really it s ░░░░░░░░ for the committee You ░░░░░░░░ I was around when ░░░░░░░░ two committees were stood ░░░░░░░░ in the late 70s ░░░░░░░░ two oversight committees in ░░░░░░░░ House and Senate And ░░░░░░░░ general attitude CAMEROTA When ░░░░░░░░ were formed CLAPPER I ░░░░░░░░ sorry CAMEROTA You were ░░░░░░░░ you were in the ░░░░░░░░ community in the 1970s ░░░░░░░░ they were created for ░░░░░░░░ oversight role CLAPPER Right ░░░░░░░░ CAMEROTA And CLAPPER And ░░░░░░░░ general attitude of the ░░░░░░░░ on both those committees ░░░░░░░░ 100 percent but mostly ░░░░░░░░ this is an important ░░░░░░░░ responsibility a sacred public ░░░░░░░░ And it s unrelated ░░░░░░░░ my home district home ░░░░░░░░ or my party And ░░░░░░░░ we have now is ░░░░░░░░ far cry from that ░░░░░░░░ the other bookend of ░░░░░░░░ of course is the ░░░░░░░░ chairman Chairman Mike Rogers ░░░░░░░░ a commentator for CNN ░░░░░░░░ Ranking Member Dutch Ruppersberger ░░░░░░░░ they did things on ░░░░░░░░ bipartisan basis And CAMEROTA ░░░░░░░░ now what do you ░░░░░░░░ happening CLAPPER And now ░░░░░░░░ committee and now the ░░░░░░░░ is paralyzed with partisanship ░░░░░░░░ its completely dysfunctional And ░░░░░░░░ s a sad thing ░░░░░░░░ see just the you ░░░░░░░░ what s happened to ░░░░░░░░ committee CAMEROTA And have ░░░░░░░░ lost their ability in ░░░░░░░░ mind to investigate and ░░░░░░░░ oversight CLAPPER I don ░░░░░░░░ see how they can ░░░░░░░░ do anything on a ░░░░░░░░ basis It may end ░░░░░░░░ and I think it ░░░░░░░░ headed that way anyway ░░░░░░░░ the House The Senate ░░░░░░░░ think there s still ░░░░░░░░ chance that you know ░░░░░░░░ s still bipartisanship there ░░░░░░░░ to Chairman Burr and ░░░░░░░░ Chairman Mark Warner But ░░░░░░░░ think the history is ░░░░░░░░ beyond hope at this ░░░░░░░░ The best they can ░░░░░░░░ for is two separate ░░░░░░░░ CAMEROTA Meaning the House ░░░░░░░░ CLAPPER The House Intelligence ░░░░░░░░ CAMEROTA You mean the ░░░░░░░░ Intel with the chairman ░░░░░░░░ Nunes you don t ░░░░░░░░ is capable of doing ░░░░░░░░ job CLAPPER I do ░░░░░░░░ Not in the not ░░░░░░░░ the manner in which ░░░░░░░░ was intended I mean ░░░░░░░░ CAMEROTA I mean CLAPPER ░░░░░░░░ used as a political ░░░░░░░░ to do a drive ░░░░░░░░ shooting in the interest ░░░░░░░░ defending the president or ░░░░░░░░ White House CAMEROTA A ░░░░░░░░ by shooting I mean ░░░░░░░░ can you expound on ░░░░░░░░ What do you mean ░░░░░░░░ Well I think this ░░░░░░░░ a hit job more ░░░░░░░░ less to attack the ░░░░░░░░ attack the Department of ░░░░░░░░ and inferentially or by ░░░░░░░░ the Mueller investigation I ░░░░░░░░ the whole point here ░░░░░░░░ to discredit all this ░░░░░░░░ of course that that ░░░░░░░░ rise to the president ░░░░░░░░ claim that he was ░░░░░░░░ vindicated which which he ░░░░░░░░ not The memo doesn ░░░░░░░░ do anything of the ░░░░░░░░