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Tim Barnicle Appears on ‘Morning Joe’ To Discuss Breitbart
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Morning Joe

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Mika Brzezinski

Name: Mika Brzezinski

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, Andrew Breitbart (Deceased)

Name: Andrew Breitbart (Deceased)

, Tim Barnicle

Name: Tim Barnicle

Employment: Jobs For the Future (JFF)

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RUSH TRANSCRIPT Because am ░░░░░░░░ an op ed column ░░░░░░░░ Fox News is not ░░░░░░░░ The big what do ░░░░░░░░ want What do you ░░░░░░░░ I want I want ░░░░░░░░ center right nation to ░░░░░░░░ for its soul And ░░░░░░░░ soul is represented in ░░░░░░░░ arts Its soul is ░░░░░░░░ in in in in ░░░░░░░░ in a world in ░░░░░░░░ media is everything a ░░░░░░░░ radio is the lowest ░░░░░░░░ of communication It s ░░░░░░░░ It s not it ░░░░░░░░ it s it s ░░░░░░░░ robust It s not ░░░░░░░░ I want avatar I ░░░░░░░░ the right to enter ░░░░░░░░ world of media to ░░░░░░░░ extent and invest in ░░░░░░░░ the way that the ░░░░░░░░ does George Soros is ░░░░░░░░ money like crazy You ░░░░░░░░ an NPR I want ░░░░░░░░ I want us I ░░░░░░░░ right They have an ░░░░░░░░ They re so slick ░░░░░░░░ understanding how important media ░░░░░░░░ They ve convinced the ░░░░░░░░ to pay them to ░░░░░░░░ their worldview How come ░░░░░░░░ re not fighting for ░░░░░░░░ to propagate our worldview ░░░░░░░░ we don t believe ░░░░░░░░ it Okay then use ░░░░░░░░ free market to convey ░░░░░░░░ same ideas with the ░░░░░░░░ level of sophistication and ░░░░░░░░ that NPR does because ░░░░░░░░ are superior at what ░░░░░░░░ do That was the ░░░░░░░░ conservative journalist Andrew breitbart ░░░░░░░░ in 2011 talking about ░░░░░░░░ intersection of journalism politics ░░░░░░░░ the power of managing ░░░░░░░░ message 14 years later ░░░░░░░░ brave new world of ░░░░░░░░ has evolved into new ░░░░░░░░ and hugely consequential ways ░░░░░░░░ joining us now is ░░░░░░░░ Tim barnacle whose new ░░░░░░░░ on substack is entitled ░░░░░░░░ new world the breitbart ░░░░░░░░ And just listening to ░░░░░░░░ breitbart Tim that s ░░░░░░░░ of what Trump is ░░░░░░░░ He s done a ░░░░░░░░ of what Andrew is ░░░░░░░░ and taking over media ░░░░░░░░ messaging But where is ░░░░░░░░ right now Well Donald ░░░░░░░░ Is You know the ░░░░░░░░ internet troll President but ░░░░░░░░ original Internet troll is ░░░░░░░░ breitbart The idea of ░░░░░░░░ the electorate as an ░░░░░░░░ the idea of the ░░░░░░░░ as a viewer And ░░░░░░░░ does this He starts ░░░░░░░░ com in 2007 which ░░░░░░░░ you know the beginning ░░░░░░░░ the iphone age beginning ░░░░░░░░ the social media age ░░░░░░░░ he kind of takes ░░░░░░░░ tactics that Rush Limbaugh ░░░░░░░░ used on the airwaves ░░░░░░░░ puts them on the ░░░░░░░░ and realizes that in ░░░░░░░░ age of the internet ░░░░░░░░ kind of being crazy ░░░░░░░░ even lying works better ░░░░░░░░ ever Yeah And you ░░░░░░░░ at the breitbart blueprint ░░░░░░░░ it is what Donald ░░░░░░░░ uses himself but he ░░░░░░░░ about forget politics forget ░░░░░░░░ process forget policy It ░░░░░░░░ about culture And that ░░░░░░░░ is downstream from culture ░░░░░░░░ on the culture He ░░░░░░░░ somebody asked him about ░░░░░░░░ He s like I ░░░░░░░░ t understand ObamaCare I ░░░░░░░░ t understand health care ░░░░░░░░ s too complicated Talk ░░░░░░░░ culture right So breitbart ░░░░░░░░ that he calls you ░░░░░░░░ all these policy points ░░░░░░░░ And I think we ░░░░░░░░ of live our lives ░░░░░░░░ that a little bit ░░░░░░░░ kind of scan through ░░░░░░░░ article and pretend to ░░░░░░░░ it A lot of ░░░░░░░░ you know I do ░░░░░░░░ But you take a ░░░░░░░░ at say what s ░░░░░░░░ in Venezuela and you ░░░░░░░░ these strikes you know ░░░░░░░░ call them war crimes ░░░░░░░░ we debate them And ░░░░░░░░ this is kind of ░░░░░░░░ story du jour but ░░░░░░░░ look like deleted scenes ░░░░░░░░ a Jack Ryan film ░░░░░░░░ look like something that ░░░░░░░░ could have come out ░░░░░░░░ clear and present danger ░░░░░░░░ so this kind of ░░░░░░░░ of the internet as ░░░░░░░░ know this place where ░░░░░░░░ can treat the electorate ░░░░░░░░ an audience so we ░░░░░░░░ treat the voter as ░░░░░░░░ viewer and making look ░░░░░░░░ Kristi Noem look at ░░░░░░░░ mean really any of ░░░░░░░░ way any of these ░░░░░░░░ you know dress the ░░░░░░░░ they act they re ░░░░░░░░ actors on a stage ░░░░░░░░ know Trump is a ░░░░░░░░ director above all And ░░░░░░░░ him it is a ░░░░░░░░ show But these kind ░░░░░░░░ ideas they don t ░░░░░░░░ with breitbart you know ░░░░░░░░ he is the one ░░░░░░░░ kind of brings it ░░░░░░░░ the internet And he ░░░░░░░░ this sort of legacy ░░░░░░░░ conservative media that they ░░░░░░░░ followed ever since Trump ░░░░░░░░ But let s talk ░░░░░░░░ how it s changed ░░░░░░░░ little bit right now ░░░░░░░░ We re seeing you ░░░░░░░░ for so long they ░░░░░░░░ March in lockstep Trump ░░░░░░░░ say something And whether ░░░░░░░░ was Fox News or ░░░░░░░░ or you know some ░░░░░░░░ breitbart included was run ░░░░░░░░ Steve Bannon and afterwards ░░░░░░░░ parrot that There does ░░░░░░░░ to be a little ░░░░░░░░ of a fracturing right ░░░░░░░░ in the MAGA or ░░░░░░░░ first movement for the ░░░░░░░░ time we ve seen ░░░░░░░░ a while Yeah I ░░░░░░░░ it s one of ░░░░░░░░ things where you know ░░░░░░░░ Trump is supposedly maybe ░░░░░░░░ his grip but he ░░░░░░░░ still you know how ░░░░░░░░ we think of him ░░░░░░░░ mob boss Again it ░░░░░░░░ back to the idea ░░░░░░░░ heroes and villains But ░░░░░░░░ know having this narrative ░░░░░░░░ reason why you know ░░░░░░░░ of the MAGA world ░░░░░░░░ maybe breaking up is ░░░░░░░░ the narrative is kind ░░░░░░░░ becoming shaky And what ░░░░░░░░ one of the reasons ░░░░░░░░ s becoming shaky Because ░░░░░░░░ Epstein files which again ░░░░░░░░ a salacious story You ░░░░░░░░ this is what Andrew ░░░░░░░░ who had worked for ░░░░░░░░ who had worked for ░░░░░░░░ Huffington he would realize ░░░░░░░░ things were what sells ░░░░░░░░ most salacious story there ░░░░░░░░ That s Epstein that ░░░░░░░░ kind of breaking up ░░░░░░░░ world you know just ░░░░░░░░ little tiny crack Are ░░░░░░░░ any other cracks I ░░░░░░░░ for example you talked ░░░░░░░░ the boat strikes I ░░░░░░░░ that I mean it ░░░░░░░░ potentially a line at ░░░░░░░░ for some Republicans And ░░░░░░░░ they see an opening ░░░░░░░░ of the president s ░░░░░░░░ rating overall Well the ░░░░░░░░ that you know Trump ░░░░░░░░ losing his grip You ░░░░░░░░ the day he was ░░░░░░░░ into office on January ░░░░░░░░ he became a lame ░░░░░░░░ So the idea that ░░░░░░░░ might be losing his ░░░░░░░░ is definitional to his ░░░░░░░░ But again he he ░░░░░░░░ the narrative And if ░░░░░░░░ narrative starts to slip ░░░░░░░░ doesn t he s ░░░░░░░░ interested in legislation He ░░░░░░░░ has been Has there ░░░░░░░░ any bill where you ░░░░░░░░ you know he s ░░░░░░░░ health care he s ░░░░░░░░ you know affordability He ░░░░░░░░ says the word because ░░░░░░░░ saw Mamdani do a ░░░░░░░░ on the street video ░░░░░░░░ said you know that ░░░░░░░░ pretty good You know ░░░░░░░░ is how his mind ░░░░░░░░ But again this is ░░░░░░░░ is you know we ░░░░░░░░ culture is the dominant ░░░░░░░░ You know it s ░░░░░░░░ a television show We ░░░░░░░░ breitbart in that clip ░░░░░░░░ came in with talking ░░░░░░░░ Democrats the left controlling ░░░░░░░░ controlling media What about ░░░░░░░░ Have Democrats taken any ░░░░░░░░ the sort of breitbart ░░░░░░░░ in politics You know ░░░░░░░░ s a good question ░░░░░░░░ Democrats saw zoran Mamdani ░░░░░░░░ s you know on ░░░░░░░░ cover of all these ░░░░░░░░ in front of me ░░░░░░░░ he you know they ░░░░░░░░ the idea of calling ░░░░░░░░ the big ugly bill ░░░░░░░░ doing one single vertical ░░░░░░░░ solves their problem which ░░░░░░░░ doesn t at all ░░░░░░░░ need something to say ░░░░░░░░ know Mamdani had great ░░░░░░░░ that was simple make ░░░░░░░░ York affordable again basically ░░░░░░░░ so these ideas of ░░░░░░░░ something to say and ░░░░░░░░ just you know doing ░░░░░░░░ video because you know ░░░░░░░░ bless his heart Chuck ░░░░░░░░ is just not very ░░░░░░░░ on television right In ░░░░░░░░ day and age to ░░░░░░░░ a politician Politicians now ░░░░░░░░ podcast hosts Politicians are ░░░░░░░░ This is how we ░░░░░░░░ them And this is ░░░░░░░░ know you know Gavin ░░░░░░░░ Look at him He ░░░░░░░░ not wearing the suit ░░░░░░░░ tie anymore He s ░░░░░░░░ kind of the cool ░░░░░░░░ wrangler shirt on television ░░░░░░░░ s pushing the envelope ░░░░░░░░ you see all these ░░░░░░░░ whoever s going to ░░░░░░░░ through in 2026 and ░░░░░░░░ is going to have ░░░░░░░░ to say a real ░░░░░░░░ but also they re ░░░░░░░░ to look good Doing ░░░░░░░░ abilities Yeah Tim s ░░░░░░░░ entitled brave new world ░░░░░░░░ breitbart revolution is available ░░░░░░░░ read on substack right ░░░░░░░░ Author Tim barnacle thank ░░░░░░░░ Good to see you ░░░░░░░░ All right Today on ░░░░░░░░ Hill Democrats will host ░░░░░░░░ forum with U S ░░░░░░░░ who say they were ░░░░░░░░ and the Trump Administration ░░░░░░░░ aggressive crackdown on immigration ░░░░░░░░ re going to speak ░░░░░░░░ one of the leaders ░░░░░░░░ that discussion democratic senator ░░░░░░░░ Blumenthal of Connecticut about ░░░░░░░░ those who were detained ░░░░░░░░ through Plus the latest ░░░░░░░░ that deadly strike on ░░░░░░░░ of the alleged drug ░░░░░░░░ attack What President Trump ░░░░░░░░ now saying about releasing ░░░░░░░░ the video You re ░░░░░░░░ Morning Joe We re ░░░░░░░░ in just a moment.
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