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CNN Panel Melts Down When Batya Ungar-Sargon Points Out the DIA Head Fired by Hegseth Was ‘Objectively Terrible at His Job’
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CNN Saturday Morning Table for Five

Name: CNN Saturday Morning Table for Five
URL: https://tv.youtube.com/browse/cnn-saturday-morning-table-for-five-UCl3R1y8gM2YVmhhUJRDjf1A
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John Fugelsang
, Abby Phillip
, Van Lathan
, Kristin Davison
, Batya Ungar-Sargon

Name: John Fugelsang
Employment: Current TV
Position: Host

Name: Abby Phillip
Employment: CNN
Position: Reporter

Name: Van Lathan
Position: Journalist, Producer, Podcast Host

Name: Kristin Davison
Employment: Axiom Strategies
Position: Partner

Name: Batya Ungar-Sargon
Employment: Newsweek
Position: Deputy Opinion Editor
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PHILLIP John the thing ░░░░░░░░ it though is that ░░░░░░░░ s not even so ░░░░░░░░ that whatever this initial ░░░░░░░░ was was the Bible ░░░░░░░░ It s just an ░░░░░░░░ assessment And the intelligence ░░░░░░░░ I presume ought to ░░░░░░░░ the ability to go ░░░░░░░░ that process and have ░░░░░░░░ that are updated as ░░░░░░░░ goes on without fear ░░░░░░░░ retribution UNGAR SARGON I ░░░░░░░░ sorry This person was ░░░░░░░░ terrible at his job ░░░░░░░░ Why do you say ░░░░░░░░ UNGAR SARGON Because we ░░░░░░░░ Fordow in June and ░░░░░░░░ said right after that ░░░░░░░░ it was leaked right ░░░░░░░░ that at a sensitive ░░░░░░░░ that we only set ░░░░░░░░ back the Iranians capabilities ░░░░░░░░ capabilities by months It ░░░░░░░░ been months since then ░░░░░░░░ s been two months ░░░░░░░░ then This was obviously ░░░░░░░░ The Israeli intelligence told ░░░░░░░░ that we had set ░░░░░░░░ back by years It ░░░░░░░░ obvious from the footage ░░░░░░░░ the report could only ░░░░░░░░ been this wrong if ░░░░░░░░ was politically motivated PHILLIP ░░░░░░░░ is only the view ░░░░░░░░ would come to if ░░░░░░░░ don t understand how ░░░░░░░░ gathering works and or ░░░░░░░░ don t care how ░░░░░░░░ gathering works and you ░░░░░░░░ t appreciate the fact ░░░░░░░░ more information is gathered ░░░░░░░░ time and that there ░░░░░░░░ often disagreements between agencies ░░░░░░░░ what they understand to ░░░░░░░░ the facts of the ░░░░░░░░ All of that is ░░░░░░░░ None of that is ░░░░░░░░ Not every assessment is ░░░░░░░░ the same because that ░░░░░░░░ negate the point of ░░░░░░░░ multiple agencies doing assessments ░░░░░░░░ SARGON That s why ░░░░░░░░ shouldn t allow sensitive ░░░░░░░░ that are going to ░░░░░░░░ proved to be very ░░░░░░░░ very quickly FUGELSANG When ░░░░░░░░ Trump bombs Iran when ░░░░░░░░ bombs Iran again in ░░░░░░░░ months what will you ░░░░░░░░ When he bombs Iran ░░░░░░░░ when the Epstein papers ░░░░░░░░ up and he has ░░░░░░░░ go there again UNGAR ░░░░░░░░ I know you can ░░░░░░░░ sit here and make ░░░░░░░░ up and then not ░░░░░░░░ responsible four months from ░░░░░░░░ to come back and ░░░░░░░░ I was wrong I ░░░░░░░░ wrong about that PHILLIP ░░░░░░░░ just wonder if the ░░░░░░░░ at this moment now ░░░░░░░░ Trump is that you ░░░░░░░░ you should only produce ░░░░░░░░ for Trump if it ░░░░░░░░ it if you know ░░░░░░░░ sure that it s ░░░░░░░░ to align with what ░░░░░░░░ president wants to hear ░░░░░░░░ if it doesn t ░░░░░░░░ don t bother to ░░░░░░░░ do anything LATHAN If ░░░░░░░░ s not the feeling ░░░░░░░░ it very soon will ░░░░░░░░ And it just makes ░░░░░░░░ weaker A lack of ░░░░░░░░ always makes you weaker ░░░░░░░░ won t be we ░░░░░░░░ t really know where ░░░░░░░░ stand geopolitically if we ░░░░░░░░ t give accurate information ░░░░░░░░ the president for fear ░░░░░░░░ him firing you We ░░░░░░░░ t know where we ░░░░░░░░ economically if we can ░░░░░░░░ be truthful about the ░░░░░░░░ numbers because you ll ░░░░░░░░ your job if you ░░░░░░░░ the president the truth ░░░░░░░░ like spinning these lies ░░░░░░░░ SARGON But these people ░░░░░░░░ got things very wrong ░░░░░░░░ Like spinning these lies ░░░░░░░░ the reality is like ░░░░░░░░ this in this particular ░░░░░░░░ having to yes man ░░░░░░░░ president on issues that ░░░░░░░░ this big and this ░░░░░░░░ to people s lives ░░░░░░░░ people less safe UNGAR ░░░░░░░░ Don t you think ░░░░░░░░ should be fired if ░░░░░░░░ are very wrong and ░░░░░░░░ job is to produce ░░░░░░░░ FUGELSANG What if they ░░░░░░░░ What if they can ░░░░░░░░ stop lying DAVISON If ░░░░░░░░ assume that this firing ░░░░░░░░ political who is to ░░░░░░░░ we can t assume ░░░░░░░░ the leaking of the ░░░░░░░░ from a Biden appointee ░░░░░░░░ t political Why do ░░░░░░░░ give that a free ░░░░░░░░ PHILLIP Actually I don ░░░░░░░░ think we know where ░░░░░░░░ leak DAVISON Now we ░░░░░░░░ t know PHILLIP No ░░░░░░░░ no no no the ░░░░░░░░ specifically I mean I ░░░░░░░░ that you all have ░░░░░░░░ the assumption that he ░░░░░░░░ the information I don ░░░░░░░░ think that that is ░░░░░░░░ we know either based ░░░░░░░░ the reporting or based ░░░░░░░░ anything that the administration ░░░░░░░░ said So there s ░░░░░░░░ But I think the ░░░░░░░░ part of this is ░░░░░░░░ you know there are ░░░░░░░░ when there is disagreement ░░░░░░░░ an administration even between ░░░░░░░░ When the Israeli government ░░░░░░░░ one thing about what ░░░░░░░░ intelligence says and our ░░░░░░░░ says something else who ░░░░░░░░ we to believe or ░░░░░░░░ we just not want ░░░░░░░░ at all LATHAN And ░░░░░░░░ UNGAR SARGON They waited ░░░░░░░░ months and it was ░░░░░░░░ that this director of ░░░░░░░░ was crappy at getting ░░░░░░░░ And so they fired ░░░░░░░░ for being bad at ░░░░░░░░ job description Like that ░░░░░░░░ totally normal FUGELSANG So ░░░░░░░░ re saying it s ░░░░░░░░ LATHAN I could also ░░░░░░░░ that there have been ░░░░░░░░ people in the administration ░░░░░░░░ have shown gross incompetence ░░░░░░░░ things and they have ░░░░░░░░ been fired like Hegseth ░░░░░░░░ that whole Signal thing ░░░░░░░░ all of that stuff ░░░░░░░░ the president has rallied ░░░░░░░░ different people that have ░░░░░░░░ things that were massively ░░░░░░░░ to the very lay ░░░░░░░░ minds that could read ░░░░░░░░ newspaper in the country ░░░░░░░░ rather than fire those ░░░░░░░░ because or remove those ░░░░░░░░ because they are his ░░░░░░░░ the president doubled down ░░░░░░░░ his support for them ░░░░░░░░ seems like it s ░░░░░░░░ SARGON He fired Mike ░░░░░░░░ over Signalgate PHILLIP Batya ░░░░░░░░ think you would appreciate ░░░░░░░░ because wrongness is usually ░░░░░░░░ the main problem when ░░░░░░░░ comes to intelligence gathering ░░░░░░░░ is When everybody is ░░░░░░░░ in the same direction ░░░░░░░░ there is nobody saying ░░░░░░░░ I m not sure ░░░░░░░░ this is right that ░░░░░░░░ what got us into ░░░░░░░░ wars after 9 11 ░░░░░░░░ on shoddy evidence So ░░░░░░░░ do think LATHAN Everyone ░░░░░░░░ telling the Bush Administration ░░░░░░░░ they wanted to hear ░░░░░░░░ Everyone was telling them ░░░░░░░░ what they wanted to ░░░░░░░░ LATHAN And then a ░░░░░░░░ people died PHILLIP I ░░░░░░░░ that because I know ░░░░░░░░ you are not a ░░░░░░░░ of those types of ░░░░░░░░ but I think that ░░░░░░░░ s important to understand ░░░░░░░░ the issue with the ░░░░░░░░ in moments like that ░░░░░░░░ not that there was ░░░░░░░░ person who was wrong ░░░░░░░░ s that everybody was ░░░░░░░░ one thing and that ░░░░░░░░ groupthink was wrong UNGAR ░░░░░░░░ Thank you I appreciate ░░░░░░░░ point a lot That ░░░░░░░░ why I started by ░░░░░░░░ he s bad at ░░░░░░░░ job because of the ░░░░░░░░ of the leak and ░░░░░░░░ bad intelligence You as ░░░░░░░░ boss are responsible for ░░░░░░░░ leaks that happen in ░░░░░░░░ department FUGELSANG The boss ░░░░░░░░ responsible UNGAR SARGON He ░░░░░░░░ to take responsibility for ░░░░░░░░ happened.”
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