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Exclusive Tulsi Gabbard Exposes Obama’s Russia Hoax on The Matt Gaetz Show
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Tulsi Gabbard

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It seems from what ░░░░░░░░ ve revealed the core ░░░░░░░░ the December 9 meeting ░░░░░░░░ Obama called was getting ░░░░░░░░ assessment in position for ░░░░░░░░ to be leaked and ░░░░░░░░ Now the Department of ░░░░░░░░ has organized a strike ░░░░░░░░ to assess the criminal ░░░░░░░░ you ve sent What ░░░░░░░░ your reaction to the ░░░░░░░░ s swift action on ░░░░░░░░ And uh and do ░░░░░░░░ think it ll lead ░░░░░░░░ Yeah I ve spoken ░░░░░░░░ Attorney General Bondi This ░░░░░░░░ force is exactly the ░░░░░░░░ first step uh towards ░░░░░░░░ will follow coming from ░░░░░░░░ Department of Justice They ░░░░░░░░ have referred all of ░░░░░░░░ documents that we have ░░░░░░░░ released both redacted and ░░░░░░░░ versions to them for ░░░░░░░░ investigation uh to look ░░░░░░░░ the criminal options uh ░░░░░░░░ indictments and prosecution that ░░░░░░░░ available to them In ░░░░░░░░ nobody believed it possible ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump to defeat ░░░░░░░░ Clinton When he did ░░░░░░░░ seems President Obama just ░░░░░░░░ t take it He ░░░░░░░░ a December 9th 2016 ░░░░░░░░ in the White House ░░░░░░░░ Room just weeks after ░░░░░░░░ Clinton conceded He ordered ░░░░░░░░ A or intelligence community ░░░░░░░░ to functionally attribute Trump ░░░░░░░░ unexpected win to the ░░░░░░░░ of Vladimir Putin That ░░░░░░░░ ordered phony assessment was ░░░░░░░░ politics not national security ░░░░░░░░ the truth The political ░░░░░░░░ was to discredit Trump ░░░░░░░░ he was even sworn ░░░░░░░░ office I was in ░░░░░░░░ at the time and ░░░░░░░░ the scheme for what ░░░░░░░░ was The department appointed ░░░░░░░░ Mueller to investigate the ░░░░░░░░ all based on a ░░░░░░░░ a concocted sham by ░░░░░░░░ Obama We now know ░░░░░░░░ a doubt that Obama ░░░░░░░░ Clapper and Comey were ░░░░░░░░ our democracy all while ░░░░░░░░ us of attacking democracy ░░░░░░░░ know these things because ░░░░░░░░ of national intelligence Tulsi ░░░░░░░░ has released hundreds of ░░░░░░░░ revealing that the mindful ░░░░░░░░ of senior intel officials ░░░░░░░░ ignored Foreign spies were ░░░░░░░░ a US government endorsed ░░░░░░░░ to smear Trump with ░░░░░░░░ lies They used these ░░░░░░░░ to illegally spy on ░░░░░░░░ Trump campaign Former CIA ░░░░░░░░ John Brennan lied to ░░░░░░░░ about his role The ░░░░░░░░ effort was real Now ░░░░░░░░ director Gabbard has revealed ░░░░░░░░ truth Where will it ░░░░░░░░ lead Joining us now ░░░░░░░░ of National Intelligence Tulsi ░░░░░░░░ So Director Gabbard it ░░░░░░░░ been several days since ░░░░░░░░ monumental release of documents ░░░░░░░░ President Obama his CIA ░░░░░░░░ and his DNI to ░░░░░░░░ hoax fabrications What do ░░░░░░░░ think so far about ░░░░░░░░ public s reaction and ░░░░░░░░ media s reaction Uh ░░░░░░░░ I think a lot ░░░░░░░░ the public uh first ░░░░░░░░ all thanks for having ░░░░░░░░ on your show Matt ░░░░░░░░ I think we ve ░░░░░░░░ a lot of people ░░░░░░░░ you look across social ░░░░░░░░ who uh those who ░░░░░░░░ been following this closely ░░░░░░░░ re not surprised at ░░░░░░░░ at the revelation but ░░░░░░░░ are surprised I think ░░░░░░░░ we have found the ░░░░░░░░ that proves that this ░░░░░░░░ intelligence community assessment was ░░░░░░░░ contrived document uh that ░░░░░░░░ knowingly made using fake ░░░░░░░░ or substandard intelligence in ░░░░░░░░ to drive this uh ░░░░░░░░ that President Obama wanted ░░░░░░░░ see which was that ░░░░░░░░ helped Donald Trump get ░░░░░░░░ in 2016 or at ░░░░░░░░ aspired to This directly ░░░░░░░░ every other intelligence community ░░░░░░░░ every other assessment that ░░░░░░░░ from the intelligence community ░░░░░░░░ the last several months ░░░░░░░░ both before the 2016 ░░░░░░░░ as well as immediate ░░░░░░░░ immediately after But I ░░░░░░░░ to focus here on ░░░░░░░░ media s response because ░░░░░░░░ has been really what ░░░░░░░░ most striking Uh when ░░░░░░░░ look at outlets like ░░░░░░░░ New York Times the ░░░░░░░░ Post MSNBC CNN uh ░░░░░░░░ ll Politico you ll ░░░░░░░░ in these outlets either ░░░░░░░░ and complete silence or ░░░░░░░░ who are choosing to ░░░░░░░░ it uh are not ░░░░░░░░ pointing to the documents ░░░░░░░░ the revelations that were ░░░░░░░░ released that we released ░░░░░░░░ week and this week ░░░░░░░░ exposing the truth about ░░░░░░░░ manufactured intelligence assessment Instead ░░░░░░░░ re saying Oh well ░░░░░░░░ know President Obama s ░░░░░░░░ says this is bizarre ░░░░░░░░ focusing on these other ░░░░░░░░ that have nothing to ░░░░░░░░ with the core uh ░░░░░░░░ disturbing revelation that we ░░░░░░░░ that frankly has to ░░░░░░░░ not with Democrats or ░░░░░░░░ but with the integrity ░░░░░░░░ our Democratic Republic It ░░░░░░░░ a serious issue that ░░░░░░░░ concern every American should ░░░░░░░░ every serious news outlet ░░░░░░░░ I can only conflate ░░░░░░░░ silence or attempts at ░░░░░░░░ uh as one thing ░░░░░░░░ they re afraid to ░░░░░░░░ the truth because if ░░░░░░░░ tell the truth they ░░░░░░░░ have to remind the ░░░░░░░░ people that over those ░░░░░░░░ years both during President ░░░░░░░░ s election after the ░░░░░░░░ uh and in the ░░░░░░░░ of President Trump s ░░░░░░░░ administration they furthered the ░░░░░░░░ They printed what the ░░░░░░░░ state actors and the ░░░░░░░░ community and the John ░░░░░░░░ and J James uh ░░░░░░░░ of the world told ░░░░░░░░ to print Some even ░░░░░░░░ Pulitzer prizes for it ░░░░░░░░ in order for them ░░░░░░░░ cover this honestly and ░░░░░░░░ and simply report the ░░░░░░░░ that we released in ░░░░░░░░ documents they would also ░░░░░░░░ to admit their culpability ░░░░░░░░ in furthering this historic ░░░░░░░░ lie That was the ░░░░░░░░ all along It seems ░░░░░░░░ what you ve revealed ░░░░░░░░ core of the December ░░░░░░░░ meeting President Obama called ░░░░░░░░ getting this assessment in ░░░░░░░░ for it to be ░░░░░░░░ and weaponized Now the ░░░░░░░░ of Justice has organized ░░░░░░░░ strike force to assess ░░░░░░░░ criminal referrals you ve ░░░░░░░░ What s your reaction ░░░░░░░░ the DoJ s swift ░░░░░░░░ on this And uh ░░░░░░░░ do you think it ░░░░░░░░ lead somewhere Yeah I ░░░░░░░░ spoken with Attorney General ░░░░░░░░ This strike force is ░░░░░░░░ the necessary first step ░░░░░░░░ towards what will follow ░░░░░░░░ from the Department of ░░░░░░░░ They we have referred ░░░░░░░░ of the documents that ░░░░░░░░ have uh released both ░░░░░░░░ and unredacted versions to ░░░░░░░░ for their investigation uh ░░░░░░░░ look at the criminal ░░░░░░░░ uh for indictments and ░░░░░░░░ that are available to ░░░░░░░░ I think they understand ░░░░░░░░ seriousness of this and ░░░░░░░░ the fact that this ░░░░░░░░ force team has been ░░░░░░░░ together to focus singularly ░░░░░░░░ this issue uh is ░░░░░░░░ a positive sign Your ░░░░░░░░ uncovered witnesses who told ░░░░░░░░ that or told your ░░░░░░░░ that CIA director John ░░░░░░░░ overruled intelligence officials uh ░░░░░░░░ were objecting to the ░░░░░░░░ of the steel dossier ░░░░░░░░ the intelligence community assessment ░░░░░░░░ well would some of ░░░░░░░░ witnesses hold up in ░░░░░░░░ or in a public ░░░░░░░░ of the House Oversight ░░░░░░░░ Well these are some ░░░░░░░░ the most uh senior ░░░░░░░░ officials within the CIA ░░░░░░░░ came forward and spoke ░░░░░░░░ truth to the House ░░░░░░░░ Committees uh majority staff ░░░░░░░░ that launched this investigation ░░░░░░░░ invest they spoke to ░░░░░░░░ interviewed over 20 intelligence ░░░░░░░░ professionals senior officials within ░░░░░░░░ CIA which is how ░░░░░░░░ uncovered the truth of ░░░░░░░░ actually happened as reported ░░░░░░░░ the documents that we ░░░░░░░░ yesterday And I wonder ░░░░░░░░ they didn t come ░░░░░░░░ sooner Members of Congress ░░░░░░░░ always curating whistleblowers There ░░░░░░░░ an inspector general Were ░░░░░░░░ people afraid to come ░░░░░░░░ or why do you ░░░░░░░░ it took this this ░░░░░░░░ proactive investigation that that ░░░░░░░░ ve led to get ░░░░░░░░ this point Oh there ░░░░░░░░ a couple things here ░░░░░░░░ of all this report ░░░░░░░░ results of this investigation ░░░░░░░░ was conducted by the ░░░░░░░░ Intelligence Community s majority ░░░░░░░░ once they finished the ░░░░░░░░ very quickly it was ░░░░░░░░ away in a safe ░░░░░░░░ uh the CIA in ░░░░░░░░ safe within a safe ░░░░░░░░ m told uh until ░░░░░░░░ recently at President Trump ░░░░░░░░ direction to make sure ░░░░░░░░ the American people could ░░░░░░░░ the truth The second ░░░░░░░░ is I can speak ░░░░░░░░ a firsthand account about ░░░░░░░░ whistleblower within ODNI who ░░░░░░░░ for then uh Obama ░░░░░░░░ DNI James Clapper about ░░░░░░░░ he refused to go ░░░░░░░░ with this As a ░░░░░░░░ he was sidelined and ░░░░░░░░ out of this He ░░░░░░░░ the cyber guy in ░░░░░░░░ director uh in director ░░░░░░░░ national intelligence James Clapper ░░░░░░░░ uh team He was ░░░░░░░░ because he wouldn t ░░░░░░░░ along with the lie ░░░░░░░░ they were creating And ░░░░░░░░ did blow the whistle ░░░░░░░░ he raised this through ░░░░░░░░ ICIG Uh he raised ░░░░░░░░ tried to raise this ░░░░░░░░ multiple members of Congress ░░░░░░░░ Senator Warner He never ░░░░░░░░ calls back They were ░░░░░░░░ interested in what he ░░░░░░░░ to say and what ░░░░░░░░ had experienced He even ░░░░░░░░ then to go and ░░░░░░░░ this to the Department ░░░░░░░░ Justice uh under uh ░░░░░░░░ Biden and was refused ░░░░░░░░ action They were not ░░░░░░░░ in taking action in ░░░░░░░░ We now know that ░░░░░░░░ sub sources for the ░░░░░░░░ dossier were connected to ░░░░░░░░ intelligence We learned that ░░░░░░░░ the Horowitz report I ░░░░░░░░ always wondered this Director ░░░░░░░░ who was the highest ░░░░░░░░ person in the US ░░░░░░░░ who knew that there ░░░░░░░░ Russian subsources in the ░░░░░░░░ when it was used ░░░░░░░░ the intelligence community assessment ░░░░░░░░ what the documents show ░░░░░░░░ we ve released and ░░░░░░░░ this is not my ░░░░░░░░ or my opinion but ░░░░░░░░ evidence is there for ░░░░░░░░ who choose to actually ░░░░░░░░ what we released which ░░░░░░░░ that these senior uh ░░░░░░░░ officials specifically pointed out ░░░░░░░░ CIA director John Brennan ░░░░░░░░ the uh sources that ░░░░░░░░ wanted to use uh ░░░░░░░░ support this manufactured intelligence ░░░░░░░░ that President Obama ordered ░░░░░░░░ created were basic basically ░░░░░░░░ trash uh they they ░░░░░░░░ t meet traditional intelligence ░░░░░░░░ trade craft standards which ░░░░░░░░ why they they were ░░░░░░░░ used before And in ░░░░░░░░ four main uh pieces ░░░░░░░░ evidence that that were ░░░░░░░░ uh in every example ░░░░░░░░ Brennan uh basically overruled ░░░░░░░░ objections and said nope ░░░░░░░░ ve got to use ░░░░░░░░ anyway I think the ░░░░░░░░ important point here is ░░░░░░░░ one of those key ░░░░░░░░ uh of so called ░░░░░░░░ that Brennan used for ░░░░░░░░ fake assessment uh was ░░░░░░░░ Steel Dossier They knew ░░░░░░░░ was discredited These senior ░░░░░░░░ officials wouldn t even ░░░░░░░░ of using it because ░░░░░░░░ knew that it was ░░░░░░░░ a piece of cred ░░░░░░░░ intelligence nor was it ░░░░░░░░ credible source Uh John ░░░░░░░░ told them to use ░░░░░░░░ anyway Tried to hide ░░░░░░░░ by by highly compartmentalizing ░░░░░░░░ classifying this document and ░░░░░░░░ went and lied to ░░░░░░░░ American people and lied ░░░░░░░░ to Congress when he ░░░░░░░░ asked very specifically did ░░░░░░░░ use the steel dossier ░░░░░░░░ the creation of this ░░░░░░░░ assessment that was published ░░░░░░░░ January of 2017 And ░░░░░░░░ both cases both to ░░░░░░░░ and the American people ░░░░░░░░ an interview he said ░░░░░░░░ Emphatically he said no ░░░░░░░░ was not used in ░░░░░░░░ way to create this ░░░░░░░░ assessment that President Obama ░░░░░░░░ Yeah it was used ░░░░░░░░ was that congressman he ░░░░░░░░ to I was the ░░░░░░░░ who deposed him in ░░░░░░░░ 2023 and his uh ░░░░░░░░ to disclaim any involvement ░░░░░░░░ that was striking even ░░░░░░░░ the time I think ░░░░░░░░ are a lot of ░░░░░░░░ who will see this ░░░░░░░░ Gabbard and say Well ░░░░░░░░ ve we ve observed ░░░░░░░░ lot of this corruption ░░░░░░░░ lot of these bad ░░░░░░░░ in the past but ░░░░░░░░ haven t really seen ░░░░░░░░ prosecutions And I m ░░░░░░░░ sympathetic to the decisions ░░░░░░░░ have to be made ░░░░░░░░ DoJ about the likelihood ░░░░░░░░ a conviction But one ░░░░░░░░ I wanted to ask ░░░░░░░░ is whether or not ░░░░░░░░ your investigation you discovered ░░░░░░░░ predicate criminal acts that ░░░░░░░░ have occurred outside of ░░░░░░░░ D C You know ░░░░░░░░ people take a phone ░░░░░░░░ from Palm Beach or ░░░░░░░░ Delaware or Jackson Hole ░░░░░░░░ Do you think that ░░░░░░░░ there were to be ░░░░░░░░ grand conspiracy uh charge ░░░░░░░░ that any activity could ░░░░░░░░ been outside the beltway ░░░░░░░░ all all I can ░░░░░░░░ to again is the ░░░░░░░░ that we ve released ░░░░░░░░ that we have our ░░░░░░░░ counsel and we have ░░░░░░░░ who ve been working ░░░░░░░░ us every step of ░░░░░░░░ way reviewing these documents ░░░░░░░░ preparing them for referral ░░░░░░░░ the Department of Justice ░░░░░░░░ action Uh in the ░░░░░░░░ that we do we ░░░░░░░░ going to continue uh ░░░░░░░░ find the truth wherever ░░░░░░░░ is uh and bring ░░░░░░░░ about to bring truth ░░░░░░░░ transparency and it must ░░░░░░░░ to accountability in order ░░░░░░░░ us to begin to ░░░░░░░░ uh any trust that ░░░░░░░░ kind of uh it ░░░░░░░░ it s manipulation and ░░░░░░░░ manufacturing of false intelligence ░░░░░░░░ but why it was ░░░░░░░░ is is the most ░░░░░░░░ thing to all Americans ░░░░░░░░ for the future of ░░░░░░░░ republic It was created ░░░░░░░░ President Obama and his ░░░░░░░░ were unhappy with the ░░░░░░░░ the American people made ░░░░░░░░ electing Donald Trump in ░░░░░░░░ And therefore they created ░░░░░░░░ document again that contradicted ░░░░░░░░ other piece of uh ░░░░░░░░ assessments that they saw ░░░░░░░░ to this election They ░░░░░░░░ at the protest of ░░░░░░░░ CIA officials because they ░░░░░░░░ use this foundational document ░░░░░░░░ everything that came after ░░░░░░░░ the following four years ░░░░░░░░ M ller investigation what ░░░░░░░░ essentially a years sl ░░░░░░░░ coup against President Trump ░░░░░░░░ the smears and the ░░░░░░░░ the FBI raids the ░░░░░░░░ congressional impeachments the list ░░░░░░░░ on and on And ░░░░░░░░ this action needs to ░░░░░░░░ seen within the context ░░░░░░░░ what happened before and ░░░░░░░░ came after to recognize ░░░░░░░░ conspiracy that exists One ░░░░░░░░ the things it was ░░░░░░░░ for was surveillance of ░░░░░░░░ Trump campaign That surveillance ░░░░░░░░ had as a component ░░░░░░░░ various outreaches to George ░░░░░░░░ And there s this ░░░░░░░░ that emerged in the ░░░░░░░░ hoax I ve been ░░░░░░░░ little obsessed with Dr ░░░░░░░░ MySud is this professor ░░░░░░░░ alleges he can connect ░░░░░░░░ to Putin Uh we ░░░░░░░░ long believed that that ░░░░░░░░ a person connected to ░░░░░░░░ intelligence Did your investigation ░░░░░░░░ who Dr Myths is ░░░░░░░░ that s not something ░░░░░░░░ ve seen uh come ░░░░░░░░ my desk but I ░░░░░░░░ that our team again ░░░░░░░░ multiple issues including election ░░░░░░░░ We re going to ░░░░░░░░ to investigate to find ░░░░░░░░ truth and tell the ░░░░░░░░ Final question for you ░░░░░░░░ and you ve been ░░░░░░░░ generous with your time ░░░░░░░░ you think after all ░░░░░░░░ is done people will ░░░░░░░░ be able to trust ░░░░░░░░ CIA FBI the intelligence ░░░░░░░░ again or is this ░░░░░░░░ of what we have ░░░░░░░░ go through to rebuild ░░░░░░░░ trust I think telling ░░░░░░░░ truth and bringing about ░░░░░░░░ and accountability is essential ░░░░░░░░ any uh rebuilding of ░░░░░░░░ trust to occur Uh ░░░░░░░░ that that s really ░░░░░░░░ bottom line Each of ░░░░░░░░ things transparency truth and ░░░░░░░░ uh is essential This ░░░░░░░░ what I committed to ░░░░░░░░ president and to the ░░░░░░░░ people that I would ░░░░░░░░ as director of national ░░░░░░░░ and I m going ░░░░░░░░ continue down this path ░░░░░░░░ re doing an excellent ░░░░░░░░ Godspeed to you director ░░░░░░░░ national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard ░░░░░░░░ you as always coming ░░░░░░░░ the program. Thanks man.
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